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      02-15-2017, 03:01 PM   #23
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Get the Awron display over the P3! Awron is high speed CANBUS but P3 is only OBD
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      02-15-2017, 03:34 PM   #24
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Get the Awron display over the P3! Awron is high speed CANBUS but P3 is only OBD
pardon my ignorance but what are the ramifications of one over the other?
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      02-15-2017, 03:40 PM   #25
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I asked because the manual implies that this can be displayed. At least in previous cars there was a temp gage.

I've had many BMW's (this is one is number 11), and as time goes on there is less and less info available to the driver. BMW should really reconsider this.

My wife has a new FORD Edge and from a display and interaction perspective the Microsoft SYNC has all other beat hands down.

BMW should really talk to MS about this....
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pardon my ignorance but what are the ramifications of one over the other?
You realize the OBD port is fed by the canbus and is just as fast.
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This is not true. There is a hidden menu you can get to but its not convenient bc you cannot save this setting aka you have to go to it every time you start the car if you want to see these temps, settings, etc
Hidden menu...? Tell me more please...
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Pick up a P3 vent gauge, easy install and gives you all the monitor readouts.

If anyone can confirm, on the temperature screen when it reaches the middle needle my P3 display typically reads ~205-215F for Oil Temps. Wondering if anyone else is near that reading.
So the needle of the BC is a good and reliable reference?
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My wife has a new FORD Edge and from a display and interaction perspective the Microsoft SYNC has all other beat hands down.

BMW should really talk to MS about this....
Not sure about this. I haven't tried the 2017 models, but rent 2016 Fords all the time and I think the SYNC is 'meh'. Maybe it improves if you use it all the time.

Is yours a MY2016 with the old iDrive?

Sadly, my 10 days with my M2 before it went into hibernation did not give me time to form an impression of the iDrive 5.0
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So the needle of the BC is a good and reliable reference?
I assume so, when the needle reaches the middle my gauge reads between 200-215F depending on driving conditions and temperatures. My oil temps in my Golf R were around 225F so I assume that is optimum temps for the M2.
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pardon my ignorance but what are the ramifications of one over the other?
You realize the OBD port is fed by the canbus and is just as fast.
I do. CAN is the bus all control modules/ECUs in any car communicate over. OBD is an interface into the bus.

My understanding having played with many MINI/BMWs over the years there is a LOT of information you can only get from CAN you cannot get from OBD. That is not say this is true for all cars/makes but is true for MINI/BMW.

If all you want is oil temp then either gauge will do. My money went into the Awron.

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Anther item I noticed. The turning radius is much worse than the 135. I had to back up and realign to park in my usual spot at work. This is really sucky.
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I like the "screensaver" for the iDrive display. It's a nicely style clock and the date underneath. You can set it to how soon you want it to come on.
So where is the screensaver?
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I do. CAN is the bus all control modules/ECUs in any car communicate over. OBD is an interface into the bus.

My understanding having played with many MINI/BMWs over the years there is a LOT of information you can only get from CAN you cannot get from OBD. That is not say this is true for all cars/makes but is true for MINI/BMW.

If all you want is oil temp then either gauge will do. My money went into the Awron.
can the awron be mounted somewhere else other than the ac vent?
i NEED the ac vent unfortunately.
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Anther item I noticed. The turning radius is much worse than the 135. I had to back up and realign to park in my usual spot at work. This is really sucky.
I had a mazda 3 before the m2 and I was shocked at the m2 turn radius. Had to get used to it.

Here is how you access the hidden menu for oil temp etc

http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1278181
http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=850724
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[ It feels like an E36M3 handling with E46M3 power. ]

Exactly what I am hoping for!
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pardon my ignorance but what are the ramifications of one over the other?
You realize the OBD port is fed by the canbus and is just as fast.
I do. CAN is the bus all control modules/ECUs in any car communicate over. OBD is an interface into the bus.

My understanding having played with many MINI/BMWs over the years there is a LOT of information you can only get from CAN you cannot get from OBD. That is not say this is true for all cars/makes but is true for MINI/BMW.

If all you want is oil temp then either gauge will do. My money went into the Awron.
You get the same info no matter where you interface with can. Access is based on priority of the signals being sent/received and the equipment being used. The obd port can do everything with the right equipment and protocols. The Awron is nothing but an expensive reader. All the money is in the display screen. It uses the same signal protocols as anything else.
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Oil Temp

Oil temp is what is important. If you can't get an oil temp reading, oil takes approximately 15 minutes of normal driving to time to come up to temp. This is based on 45 years of experience of driving a variety of cars with both oil and water temp gauges. Oil temp takes forever, but it is what is important. This contradicts the OK indication, and I am not questioning BMW's engineering wisdom, but I will always wait the 15 min. minimum before redlining the engine. My current BMW only has an oil temp gauge.
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I asked because the manual implies that this can be displayed. At least in previous cars there was a temp gage.

I've had many BMW's (this is one is number 11), and as time goes on there is less and less info available to the driver. BMW should really reconsider this.

My wife has a new FORD Edge and from a display and interaction perspective the Microsoft SYNC has all other beat hands down.

BMW should really talk to MS about this....
The latest Ford SYNC systems are no longer Microsoft, they're QNX Car, just like iDrive.
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Get the Awron display over the P3! Awron is high speed CANBUS but P3 is only OBD
You lose a vent and requires tapping lines. P3 is straight up OBD plug and play
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Oil temp is what is important. If you can't get an oil temp reading, oil takes approximately 15 minutes of normal driving to time to come up to temp. This is based on 45 years of experience of driving a variety of cars with both oil and water temp gauges. Oil temp takes forever, but it is what is important. This contradicts the OK indication, and I am not questioning BMW's engineering wisdom, but I will always wait the 15 min. minimum before redlining the engine. My current BMW only has an oil temp gauge.
If I understood correctly, the OK reading is for water temps. If anyone should base their "Oil Temp" reading off anything it should be the colored scale at the bottom of the display.
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Get the Awron display over the P3! Awron is high speed CANBUS but P3 is only OBD
You lose a vent and requires tapping lines. P3 is straight up OBD plug and play
You do loose a vent but I have no idea what "tapping lines is"! Have you actually fitted one? I have and can tell you for a fact the remaining vent blows twice as hard. The P3 blocks part of the vent... yet in both cases they blow the same total cfm as they did before.

The P3 is cheaper. Both are plug and play.
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So where is the screensaver?
I honestly couldn't tell you right now. I went into every submenu and found it when I first took delivery of the car. It might be under the personalization settings where you can set your name, etc.
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You do loose a vent but I have no idea what "tapping lines is"! Have you actually fitted one? I have and can tell you for a fact the remaining vent blows twice as hard. The P3 blocks part of the vent... yet in both cases they blow the same total cfm as they did before.

The P3 is cheaper. Both are plug and play.
From the install instructions I was under the impression you'd have to tap into the lines but my mistake I see it's a connector install similar to the ASD bypass....but install def looks PITA!
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