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      01-08-2017, 08:49 AM   #45
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Imagine the scene: you pull up in front of an admiring crowd with your windows down on a warm summer day. The M2 looks a veritable beauty and people are staring enviously. You switch off the throbbing engine and then you open your door and instead of a sleek windowless low-slung profile... you have door frames ! Can you imagine how totally NAFF that would look ? It would be embarrassing
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Imagine the scene: you pull up in front of an admiring crowd with your windows down on a warm summer day. The M2 looks a veritable beauty and people are staring enviously. You switch off the throbbing engine and then you open your door and instead of a sleek windowless low-slung profile... you have door frames ! Can you imagine how totally NAFF that would look ? It would be embarrassing
Yes! That would be worse than having a child-restraint seat tumble out onto the sidewalk. Horrors. -scr
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Imagine the scene: you pull up in front of an admiring crowd with your windows down on a warm summer day. The M2 looks a veritable beauty and people are staring enviously. You switch off the throbbing engine and then you open your door and instead of a sleek windowless low-slung profile... you have door frames ! Can you imagine how totally NAFF that would look ? It would be embarrassing
How were you able to go out in public in your '85 911 Carrera?
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      01-09-2017, 12:14 AM   #48
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How were you able to go out in public in your '85 911 Carrera?
Heh heh... you are taking me for a dumb blonde I see. It was a targa so no door frames !!!
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My 11 year old Honda Civic coupe that I have had since I was 16 has door frames and I agree it's a much superior car because of it
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I just bought two door frames on Ebay, the seller said they would fit the 2 series 2014 to 17.
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I just bought two door frames on Ebay, the seller said they would fit the 2 series 2014 to 17.
Nice, did you get the carbon fiber ones?
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Nice, did you get the carbon fiber ones?
no, they are Carbon Board. (lots of carbon.....)

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I used to like the frameless doors until I had my first winter storm and all the ice kept it from opening all the way which sketches me out! I've since got over the issue but it definitely was a little scary the first time.
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I love them until it becomes a problem. I could open my doors today, but couldn't shut them because the window didn't budge. The rubber trim is too low for the door to close. I had to sit in my car for almost 20 minutes to warm enough so the window could come down. For some reason the rubber seal isn't so low that I can't open the door.

I don't know what I would do if the door wouldn't open.
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I love them until it becomes a problem. I could open my doors today, but couldn't shut them because the window didn't budge. The rubber trim is too low for the door to close. I had to sit in my car for almost 20 minutes to warm enough so the window could come down. For some reason the rubber seal isn't so low that I can't open the door.

I don't know what I would do if the door wouldn't open.
Kick out your window then realize you could have crawled out the trunk.
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I love them until it becomes a problem. I could open my doors today, but couldn't shut them because the window didn't budge. The rubber trim is too low for the door to close. I had to sit in my car for almost 20 minutes to warm enough so the window could come down. For some reason the rubber seal isn't so low that I can't open the door.

I don't know what I would do if the door wouldn't open.
Kick out your window then realize you could have crawled out the trunk.
Not in my E93 lol. But yes that would be the smart move.
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You know what's more annoying than frameless windows? door handles that are placed near the hinge. The type of thing you'd assume German engineers would meticulously squabble over. It's a coupe, so it inherently has long ass doors. It's hard to carefully open the door when it takes a lot of torque to move it since the damn door handle is about a foot away from the door hinge, and the usual spot you can grab it by near the end of the door doesn't exist in the M2. It's stupidly annoying, especially when I park on the far left side of my garage and try to avoid hitting the wall when I open the door.

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You know what's more annoying than frameless windows? door handles that are placed near the hinge. The type of thing you'd assume German engineers would meticulously squabble over. It's a coupe, so it inherently has long ass doors. It's hard to carefully open the door when it takes a lot of torque to move it since the damn door handle is about a foot away from the door hinge, and the usual spot you can grab it by near the end of the door doesn't exist in the M2. It's stupidly annoying, especially when I park on the far left side of my garage and try to avoid hitting the wall when I open the door.

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Now this is an actual concern! LOL. All they had to do was drill a slot in the armrest and dress it up in leather or even plastic. Need to go back to physics class and learn about levers.
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Looks at this Rolls Royce with it's frameless windows, how cheap.

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You know what's more annoying than frameless windows? door handles that are placed near the hinge. The type of thing you'd assume German engineers would meticulously squabble over. It's a coupe, so it inherently has long ass doors. It's hard to carefully open the door when it takes a lot of torque to move it since the damn door handle is about a foot away from the door hinge, and the usual spot you can grab it by near the end of the door doesn't exist in the M2. It's stupidly annoying, especially when I park on the far left side of my garage and try to avoid hitting the wall when I open the door.

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Amen brother!!! This, for me, is the most annoying part of M2 ownership. The interior door handle is so far forward I end up pinching the arm rest in lue of cut out
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Looks at this Rolls Royce with it's frameless windows, how cheap.

They've put the doors on the wrong way
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Frameless>>> framed
I am so used to my frameless doors that last summer I opened the door on my wife's car while the windows were fully down and almost whacked my face against that ugly black discolored frame cuz I wasn't expecting it to be there.

OK next topic...
Do you agree with BMW's decision to go with a circular gas cap when the other 2 series cars have square ones?
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Frameless>>> framed
I am so used to my frameless doors that last summer I opened the door on my wife's car while the windows were fully down and almost whacked my face against that ugly black discolored frame cuz I wasn't expecting it to be there.

OK next topic...
Do you agree with BMW's decision to go with a circular gas cap when the other 2 series cars have square ones?
It ain't hip to be square
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OK next topic...
Do you agree with BMW's decision to go with a circular gas cap when the other 2 series cars have square ones?
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Looks at this Rolls Royce with it's frameless windows, how cheap.

The issue is not that the windows are frameless, it's that the windows drop down when the doors are opened so they're unsupported laterally when the door is closed, hence the movement and rattle. My Chrysler Crossfire had frameless windows that didn't drop on opening, and after seven years the doors closed like bank vaults, unlike my M2. I've never had another car with windows that drop so I don't know if it's poor implementation or a design characteristic.
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The issue is not that the windows are frameless, it's that the windows drop down when the doors are opened so they're unsupported laterally when the door is closed, hence the movement and rattle. My Chrysler Crossfire had frameless windows that didn't drop on opening, and after seven years the doors closed like bank vaults, unlike my M2. I've never had another car with windows that drop so I don't know if it's poor implementation or a design characteristic.
Not sure I'm getting your point. Why would the fact that the windows dip down a fraction of an inch on opening mean that they were any less supported laterally?

BTW, I always assumed they dipped to facilitate opening/closing the door (i.e., by breaking the air lock). -scr
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