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It was a revision of the prior tire - the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 which was the OE tire on the 1M and had been a top tire. The 1M was going to come with the PSS but it was done testing prior to the new tire being fully developed. Immediately , owners began replacing the OE tire with the PSS which has far better traction especially for the rear, and also costs less as well. |
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09-19-2016, 12:16 PM | #47 |
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If it's any consolation, had you gotten PSS's and you were planning on tracking your car, my past experience with PSS's tells me you would have worn down the front shoulders in no time so those PSS's would only have been a short term proposition anyway.
The beauty about high performance rubber in general is they have no tread life, so if you don't like them, a new set is just around the corner! Just be grateful that you have your car, and are not among the poor souls like myself who are still waiting for an allocation |
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Mine came with the Michelin PSS
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Yes, it is a camber problem... the thing is I maxed out my front negative camber to -2.5 deg on my 135i (with camber plates), and the PSS's shoulders were still wearing very quickly. I tried 2 sets of PSSs and the same thing happened. Then I switched to Dunlop Star Specs and the problem went away. I have been running Star Specs ever since. Don't get me wrong, the PSS's are excellent tires, but for track use they are more sensitive to insufficient camber than some other tires out there.
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09-19-2016, 04:49 PM | #51 |
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Tweet by Michelin about the Pilot Super Sport tires sporting the BMW M2 (Oct 14, 2015):
Interview by CAR magazine with BMW M2 project manager Frank Isenberg (BMW M) about the BMW M2 (December 16, 2015): (source: http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/feature...-january-2016/) "That chunkier body – 55mm wider front, 80mm rear – is essential to cover a wider track courtesy of M4 forged aluminium suspension components. ‘The track is the same, but the M4 tyres wouldn’t fit, so the tyres are 10mm narrower,’ says Isenberg. The Michelin Pilot Super Sports measure 245/35 ZR19 front, 265/35 ZR19 rear."BMW M2 Presskit (Oct 14, 2015), page 11: M2 Technical Training (2015), page 58: As indicated above, the M2 press release of October 2015 featured the phrase:
In all five texts of this updated version (which no longer contains an express 'closed deck' reference and also modified some data regarding the BMW 2002 and BMW E30 M3), the express PSS reference was replaced by:
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I called BMW Genius today since my car's status changed to "Production Ends" over the weekend. While talking to him I asked about the tires. He could not tell on his end which tires were put on the car. One more thing to worry about.
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I've tried MPSS on 3 different cars on track and have had no issues with severe wear or delamination. |
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Mine came with MPSS but don't sweat it if you get the conti's. 3 or 4 track days and you'll need to replace the tires anyway and you can put whatever you want on there. I've got 2 track days and 4000 miles on my MPSS. Going to Road America for 2 days this weekend and fully expect I'll be ordering new tires next week.
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I contemplated bringing this up to my CA when the car gets back home but it's honestly not worth it. This is my DD so at the end of the day it doesn't really matter. If they have less grip the car will simply be more tail happy. If they get noisy I'll burn some rubber and order MPSS.
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I have a similar experience w/performance tires. They start to loose grip at 22K-25K. I noticed it more when the car was a DD and driving in the rain or wet roads. |
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Just got back from PCD today and I have PSS on my MY2017. All of the PC cars have Conti tires since they have a deal going with Conti. BMW started sourcing the contisport contact 3's because Michelin was shorting them PSS. Was not impressed with the Conti 3's on the PC M2s...glad Conti is discontinuing those. Also heard the PSS are being phased out soon for revision as well.
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That is super so true on my E46 M3, they are soooo noisy...
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??Why would we sell more of them to you when we will sell them in the aftermarket ?? Doesn't matter ... Sounds like both of these tires have new replacements coming .. Thanks for the info ! Tires are temporary! |
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