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      02-20-2017, 07:35 AM   #463
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Something in style of a driver focussed 911R would be awesome...they are also great on track and perfectly usable on the street.
Exactly - something that's better because it isn't all about lap times.
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This is interesting as someone who isnt necessarily smitten with the normal M2.

Hopefully they also include the m3/4 seats. If offered with a manual, i would consider one against a used 911 as a second car. It is a unique car in that it is performance oriented with actual backseats that someone like me with a kid that is in a carseat can use.

I personally would be open to a bigger turbo N55 or S55, either option should work well in this car.

Looking forward to more information. Hopefully it is not too limited.
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1M > M2. m2 has one of the cheapest interiors ever, heck they didnt even put proper gauges in the car and the seats dont get me started on the seats.
Have you ever sat in a 1M? Very similar to the 1 series, just as the M2 is similar to the 2 series interior. Yes, they did not posh up the interior as they did for the M3/M4. M2 is definitely not the car for those who like to be immersed in luxury as they body roll around the corners.

Not a fan of the seats either... but still like the overall mix of decisions they made in putting the M2 together.
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M2 is definitely not the car for those who like to be immersed in understeer as they body roll around the corners.
I corrected that for you

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      02-20-2017, 12:46 PM   #467
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Seattle BMW has 5 deposits already. And they are asking 5K to get your name on a list. A bit steep for an unannounced car.
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Is there really no one amongst the die hard posters who feels the urge to post his thoughts about the CS?



I miss the readings and it would a be shame to let this thread go to waste.

All I want to hear is how good and cheap it's going to be.

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I think the idea of cheap is going out the window. It's going to be smack in a range that you can get more car for the same money, but I think it will be the car I'm looking for.
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Is there really no one amongst the die hard posters who feels the urge to post his thoughts about the CS?



I miss the readings and it would a be shame to let this thread go to waste.

All I want to hear is how good and cheap it's going to be.
I'm not sure good and cheap go hand in hand,especially when it comes to a higher performance model.

Is it going to be better than the regular M2 ? Better be as I sold mine months ago knowing this car was on the horizon.

What's not to like,better engine Stance, aero,brakes...the lot,but it won't be a bargain but it will be better....start saving
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      02-22-2017, 07:56 PM   #471
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Audi RS3 ordering guide leaked:

http://fourtitude.com/news/2018-audi...ricing-leaked/

I don't think they'll price it like in the article. 53K - 55K for that 5 cylinder 400 HP engine is ridiculous.
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Audi RS3 ordering guide leaked:

http://fourtitude.com/news/2018-audi...ricing-leaked/

I don't think they'll price it like in the article. 53K - 55K for that 5 cylinder 400 HP engine is ridiculous.

???

In Germany the RS3 four door starts from € 55.900,00

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I don't think they'll price it like in the article. 53K - 55K for that 5 cylinder 400 HP engine is ridiculous.
The AMG CLA45 starts at $49,900, so I think that's right in line with the class.

As for the M2 CS, my guess is $75-80k w/S55 & ceramic brakes. Totally worth it to me!
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I'm not sure good and cheap go hand in hand,especially when it comes to a higher performance model.

Is it going to be better than the regular M2 ? Better be as I sold mine months ago knowing this car was on the horizon.

What's not to like,better engine Stance, aero,brakes...the lot,but it won't be a bargain but it will be better....start saving
BMW don't have a good track record recently of making better special editions

The GTS is a prime example

I'm hoping the CS will be the exception otherwise I'll be getting a standard M2
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BMW don't have a good track record recently of making better special editions

The GTS is a prime example

I'm hoping the CS will be the exception otherwise I'll be getting a standard M2
My hope is that the lukewarm reviews of BMW's recent products will motivate them to address these shortcomings. I partially think that's what drove the Performance Edition - by outfitting the cars with better suspensions from the factory journalists will give the M2 a second look and become believers.
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My hope is that the lukewarm reviews of BMW's recent products will motivate them to address these shortcomings. I partially think that's what drove the Performance Edition - by outfitting the cars with better suspensions from the factory journalists will give the M2 a second look and become believers.
Looking at it from a glass half full perspective, you can also point to the M3/4 ZCP cars which from all reviews seem to be significantly improved over the initial M3/4 offerings. So that's a sign they are upping their game.

I for one am 1 and 2 on two local lists for this car. We will see how the final product looks. At this point my main concern is the availability of a manual.

If the final product doesn't look good I will just get a used 991s.
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. At this point my main concern is the availability of a manual.
Same here! No manual then I'll transfer my deposit to a regular M2 and go to work on the suspension. Was cross-shopping 911's but the kids will outgrow the backseat before long.
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Same here! No manual then I'll transfer my deposit to a regular M2 and go to work on the suspension. Was cross-shopping 911's but the kids will outgrow the backseat before long.
Same here!

CS has to be offered in manual for me. Otherwise regular LCI M2 for me.

Also the Cayman GT4 4.0 RS is coming. Looks like Porsche is doing that BMW is doing, putting their flagship s55 motor into the M2. Or is BMW doing what Porsche is doing, detuning their flagship motors and putting in its baby bother..

https://www.google.com/amp/www.autob...?client=safari

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Same here!

CS has to be offered in manual for me. Otherwise regular LCI M2 for me.

Also the Cayman GT4 4.0 RS is coming. Looks like Porsche is doing that BMW is doing, putting their flagship s55 motor into the M2. Or is BMW doing what Porsche is doing, detuning their flagship motors and putting in its baby bother..

https://www.google.com/amp/www.autob...?client=safari
I read about the GT4 4.0 RS as well. Some people are predicting a Geneva reveal. If it's limited like the GT4 was, it will be in very high demand. Last October, I tried to get on a couple of local dealer lists for the next GT4 but was told that they couldn't create a list.

Dealers here sell them for 25K over at least. A 911R was being sold for $775,000 in OC. Even used GT4s are selling for 120K mostly.
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BMW don't have a good track record recently of making better special editions

The GTS is a prime example

I'm hoping the CS will be the exception otherwise I'll be getting a standard M2
I'm concerned about this as well, but as others have mentioned, they seem to be making progress.

I was looking at the C7 grand sport as well. I still think the M2 CS will be great, but there are other fun things/options out there. Good discounts out there on them as well 10k off MSRP. Puts the C7 build I like at 80k.
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Audi RS3 ordering guide leaked:

http://fourtitude.com/news/2018-audi...ricing-leaked/

I don't think they'll price it like in the article. 53K - 55K for that 5 cylinder 400 HP engine is ridiculous.
Cheaper or more expensive? Looking at much better equipment and options than an m2.
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If you want a luxery M car buy an M4.

The m2 is a succes because of the price you pay for an entry level M Car.

M should be careful to offer expensive special editions.

I rather have an b58 engine then an s55 engine and keep the CS price in check!

I hope for an b58 engine and i don t need 400 hp! The driving experience of the m2 is already fantastic. I just hope the next m2 is lighter and not bigger in size.

The size of the 1m was perfect.
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My hope is that the lukewarm reviews of BMW's recent products will motivate them to address these shortcomings. I partially think that's what drove the Performance Edition - by outfitting the cars with better suspensions from the factory journalists will give the M2 a second look and become believers.
Wait, what? Journalists were gushing over the M2 when it came out. They have since moved on the the next new thing... but they always do. They were already believers.
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Cheaper or more expensive? Looking at much better equipment and options than an m2.
Cheaper. It is way too cheap and I think it should realistically be priced closer to 60 K.

I don't really care about the power (400 HP) but I know that a lot of the people or maybe most of the people will be influenced by it.

400 HP and a better 0-60 time than an M4 at that price point will sell a bucket load of cars for Audi.
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