[cc3]

Here's an update on the M4CS might give some clues re M2 CS styling?

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-sho...-in-the-wings/

[allthatisntnow]

Originally Posted by cc3

Here's an update on the M4CS might give some clues re M2 CS styling?

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-sho...-in-the-wings/

Will probably get the same spoiler and maybe similar splitter elements. Would be gobsmacked if the M2 CS got the GTS bonnet though.

[Artemis]

My understanding of the codes list leaked today (see here):

• M2 - 6MT:
  • 1H91,P,BMW PKW,2',F87,M2,COU,,,EUR,LL,RWD,2,MECH,,,, (= EURO-spec LHD)
  • 1H92,P,BMW PKW,2',F87,M2,COU,,,EUR,RL,RWD,2,MECH,,,, (= EURO-spec RHD)
  • 1H93,P,BMW PKW,2',F87,M2,COU,,,USA,LL,RWD,2,MECH,,,, (= US-spec LHD)
• M2 - M-DCT:
  • 1H01,P,BMW PKW,2',F87,M2,COU,,,EUR,LL,RWD,2,AUT,,,, (= EURO-spec LHD)
  • 1H02,P,BMW PKW,2',F87,M2,COU,,,EUR,RL,RWD,2,AUT,,,, (= EURO-spec RHD)
  • 1H03,P,BMW PKW,2',F87,M2,COU,,,USA,LL,RWD,2,AUT,,,, (= US-spec LHD)
• M2 LCI - 6MT:
  • 1J51,P,BMW PKW,2',F87,M2,COU,,,EUR,LL,RWD,2,MECH,,,, (= EURO-spec LHD)
  • 1J52,P,BMW PKW,2',F87,M2,COU,,,EUR,RL,RWD,2,MECH,,,, (= EURO-spec RHD)
  • 1J53,P,BMW PKW,2',F87,M2,COU,,,USA,LL,RWD,2,MECH,,,, (= US-spec LHD)
• M2 LCI - M-DCT:
  • 1J61,P,BMW PKW,2',F87,M2,COU,,,EUR,LL,RWD,2,AUT,,,, (= EURO-spec LHD)
  • 1J62,P,BMW PKW,2',F87,M2,COU,,,EUR,RL,RWD,2,AUT,,,, (= EURO-spec RHD)
  • 1J63,P,BMW PKW,2',F87,M2,COU,,,USA,LL,RWD,2,AUT,,,, (= US-spec LHD)
• M2 CS - 6MT:
  • 2U71,P,BMW PKW,2',F87,M2 Competition,COU,,,EUR,LL,RWD,2,MECH,,,, (= EURO-spec LHD)
  • 2U72,P,BMW PKW,2',F87,M2 Competition,COU,,,EUR,RL,RWD,2,MECH,,,, (= EURO-spec RHD)
  • 2U73,P,BMW PKW,2',F87,M2 Competition,COU,,,USA,LL,RWD,2,MECH,,,, (= US-spec LHD)
• M2 CS - M-DCT:
  • 2U81,P,BMW PKW,2',F87,M2 Competition,COU,,,EUR,LL,RWD,2,AUT,,,, (= EURO-spec LHD)
  • 2U82,P,BMW PKW,2',F87,M2 Competition,COU,,,EUR,RL,RWD,2,AUT,,,, (= EURO-spec RHD)
  • 2U83,P,BMW PKW,2',F87,M2 Competition,COU,,,USA,LL,RWD,2,AUT,,,, (= US-spec LHD)

[Artemis]

The M2 CS discussion appears to have some similarities with the ongoing Cayman GT4 RS discussion: a more compact, fast, good value-for-money underdog car rumored to get a detuned engine of the bigger brother + hierarchy constraints + zero official info:
http://rennlist.com/forums/gt4/97142...f-a-4-0-a.html

[littleoldman]

Deposit taken at my local dealer for their 1st M2 CS allocation

Oh baby - finally a reason to have another birthday (always hated gaining a year and some grey hair) but now I cant wait to get a year older. Come on 2018!!!!

[flanast]

I'm fifth on the list. Anyone on this forum that was fifth in line and got an allocation?

[MRCUR]

Originally Posted by flanast

Anyone on this forum that was fifth in line and got an allocation?

Allocations for a car that doesn't exist yet?

[flanast]

Originally Posted by MRCUR

Allocations for a car that doesn't exist yet?

Let me clarify. So, for example, when the M2 first became a possibility and people put their name on a list with a dealer, if and when it came out, was someone fifth and line and they ended up with a car?

[ACZakka325i]

Originally Posted by flanast

Let me clarify. So, for example, when the M2 first became a possibility and people put their name on a list with a dealer, if and when it came out, was someone fifth and line and they ended up with a car?

You'd be wise to get a better waitlist position elsewhere considering the hype around the CS and the fact that it's yet to be officially announced. #5 probably won't be good enough IMHO.

[flanast]

Thanks I'll keep on looking for a dealer with a better spot.

[Bluenose-2er]

Originally Posted by ACZakka325i

You'd be wise to get a better waitlist position elsewhere considering the hype around the CS and the fact that it's yet to be officially announced. #5 probably won't be good enough IMHO.

Agreed. If they make the CS at say 10% of the M2 production, #5 is like being #50 on the wait list for an M2. Even if they go up to 20%, you are still the equivalent of #25 on your dealer's list. Though granted # 5 probably jumps up to #3 or #2 when the pricing comes out

Likely you need to be #1... or maybe #2 if the dealer sells a lot of M cars. If they did not get an M4 GTS allocation, forget about #2 or lower.

[MRCUR]

Originally Posted by flanast

Let me clarify. So, for example, when the M2 first became a possibility and people put their name on a list with a dealer, if and when it came out, was someone fifth and line and they ended up with a car?

As others have said, you likely need to be #1 or 2 to get a CS - and at a dealer that received a GTS.

[MR.]

Just be prepared to have limited numbers. I do not see it having a fixed limited number, just a low amount of production slots. Bit like the GT4.

MR

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by MR.

Just be prepared to have limited numbers. I do not see it having a fixed limited number, just a low amount of production slots. Bit like the GT4.

Sounds correct to me.

No limited edition (thus no preset production number of x cars). But no mass production either. So, expect availability in limited quantities, more particularly as much as the already very busy Leipzig factory can schedule to handle.

No economy degree needed to know that demand will outstrip supply. As seems to become a disturbing trend, supply may suffer from market speculators snatching away slots à gogo, with the only purpose to flip a coin at the expense of enthusiasts arriving later to the party (facing a long queue + the frustration of noticing speculator sharks with zero respect for the party walking up and down the waiting line offering tickets with mark-ups).

If you want one and dislike mark-up practices: get in line - don't wait till the official presentation (which I expect to happen someday this Autumn) or launch (2018).

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by MR.

Just be prepared to have limited numbers. I do not see it having a fixed limited number, just a low amount of production slots. Bit like the GT4.

MR

" Just be prepared to have limited numbers. I do not see it having a fixed limited number, just a low amount of production slots. Bit like the M2"

Fixed ...

[MR.]

How on earth we are going to wait I do not know, but I might get something in between before it arrives in 1.5 years....

MR

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Q8

The LCI M2 will have the same engine N55. M2 CS will get the S55 and it's going​ to cost around $13k more here. That's the price range figure my local M division sales manager gave me:
M2 lci $72,000 ( same price as current 2017 )
M2 CS $85,000
^^ middle East GCC price

Interesting. If we do a quick math: that's only 18% extra for the M2 CS (or whatever the name may be of the M2 variant) ?!

Theoretical exercise (just to get some ball-park figures, so beware) if applied to current EURO-spec pricing (6MT without options):
- Germany: €57.5K + 18% = ± €68K (my country: ± €70K)
- US: €52.5K + 18% = ± 62K

To my eyes, that looks too good to be true, as that's just 'M2 Performance Edition' money (see here). @Q8, are you sure that your dealer wasn't referring to some kind of M2 ZCP (competition package) instead of M2 CS ?

However, if it would turn out to be effectively the right ball-park figure (which, I repeat, is hard to believe), then that's a tell-tale sign that - apart from the S55 engine - no substantial differences can be expected between base LCI M2 and M2 CS (both getting the LCI treatment).

With such a 'low' price, the M2 CS would be (very) popular, pushing back 'base M2' sales.

[Nine Lives]

Yeah,

Quick napkin calculation for UK *BASIC SPEC*

M2 DCT ~ £46K + 18% = £54.28K ( CS )

However there are options to add and currency conversion has changed...

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Nine Lives

Yeah,
Quick napkin calculation for UK *BASIC SPEC*
M2 DCT ~ £46K + 18% = £54.28K ( CS )
However there are options to add and currency conversion has changed...

Ha, fancy that: a bargain M2 CS 'stripper' with a loooong list of 'pay to play' options: CF roof, dedicated M seats, alcantara steering wheel, bigger brakes or Carbon Ceramic Brakes, adaptive suspension, dedicated M mirrors, digital speedometer, exclusive wheels, etc. pushing the price in the end from 18% to 50% extra. ...+25% Brexit tax for you, haha.

[Benef1cient]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Ha, fancy that: a bargain M2 CS 'stripper' with a loooong list of 'pay to play' options: CF roof, dedicated M seats, alcantara steering wheel, bigger brakes or Carbon Ceramic Brakes, adaptive suspension, dedicated M mirrors, digital speedometer, exclusive wheels, etc. pushing the price in the end from 18% to 50% extra. ...+25% Brexit tax for you, haha.

To be honest that Porsche like approach to M cars in the lineup would be nice
On the other hand this 18% can be something like Competition Package with some of those items?

[Nine Lives]

Originally Posted by Nine Lives

Yeah,

Quick napkin calculation for UK *BASIC SPEC*

M2 DCT ~ £46K + 18% = £54.28K ( CS )

However there are options to add and currency conversion has changed...

Originally Posted by Artemis

Ha, fancy that: a bargain M2 CS 'stripper' with a loooong list of 'pay to play' options: CF roof, dedicated M seats, alcantara steering wheel, bigger brakes or Carbon Ceramic Brakes, adaptive suspension, dedicated M mirrors, digital speedometer, exclusive wheels, etc. pushing the price in the end from 18% to 50% extra. ...+25% Brexit tax for you, haha.

It pays to be optimistic in this day and age don't you know....good for the health.
Brexit could be pesky though

[GimmeanM]

I kinda wish it wasn't the X3M that's going to be the debut for the S58. Almost think it would serve better in the M2CS...guess I still don't feel like SUV M vehicles are real M cars.

Not going to happen, I know, but any other pros/cons to an S55 versus an S58?