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Americans may like the 4 series and A5, but they also buy a lot of Golfs, Civics, jettas, corollas, and the numbers for the A3 and CLA have been posted before. BMW is just not interested in chasing the small car, "lower" end of the market in the US. It's too easy to make money selling trucks. |
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Good luck in convincing your significant other.
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01-20-2018, 05:21 AM | #114 | |
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Porsche has it right. Need 2 more doors - do not buy a 911 or Cayman. You bought a sportscar/coupe - dont like it sell or trade. Simple all this is. |
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The downside is that it will not borrow the RWD platform used for the 2 Series Coupe and Convertible (including the next generation G4x which should move to CLAR). Instead just like the competitors’ products listed above, it will be built on a FWD platform (with available Haldex AWD, standard on the M Performance model) and use transverse four cylinder (and three cylinder) engines. This is the UKL platform that is shared with MINI, the X1, X2, 2 Series AT/GT, 1 Series Sedan, and the upcoming third generation 1 Series hatchbacks (the latter three not sold in the US). Better late than never? We shall see. |
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01-20-2018, 08:19 AM | #116 | |
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We just treat shower day like a national holiday. We have 6 or 7 of those days per year, we throw confetti at each other, have some Chinese food delivered, they are very exciting!
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I have driven them and there is enough R & D and performance to justify that they be regarded as M products. As long as they go faster, stop and handle better; why can’t they be welcomed to the fold? If anything, thier success may well be the factor that allows BMW to indulge the purists more and give us things like the M2. |
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it's too big of a car for me, i already have a 4door "soccer dad-sport sedan" that is too big. I have an allocation/reserved spot for an M2,this model or the next, and I'm quite excited about it. But i think the perfect car for MEwould be the M2 in its current size but with 4 doors. I don't need to worry about large people in the back seats for another 8-10 years, but man would the 4 doors be nice. I would have bought the RS3 if it were RWD & Manual but that's asking way too much of the guys at Quattro. is not having a GC M2 a deal breaker? No, i love the 2door as well!
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Unlike the damage caused by the "Part of a complete and balanced breakfast!" marketing bullshit fed to families by the breakfast cereal producers, along with some help from the USDA and their deadly food pyramid. It may take generations to overcome the obesity epidemic we now see in the USA. Now THAT is some damaging marketing BS. |
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Yea so if these things could now start depreciating that would be great.
Wats numbers on M3/4 for total sales like?
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There was an article here on bimmerpost indicating 68,000 or so about a half a year ago so I'm sure they are headed for well over 6 figures. M3/M4 to Get Steel Driveshafts Beginning Nov. 2017. Sales top 68,000 to date. http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1411862 |
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Yes, we shall see...In the meantime, I'm going to Zaino my E36 4-door again since the weather here is warm. |
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I once advocated for the 2 series having 4 doors, but I think having the 2 extra doors is a slippery slope. Customers will eventually want more legroom and headroom on the back and will become another fat ass F30/80 style. Nah, not excited about having big ass cars.
Maybe they could release the M140i in the US, or even the 1M hatchback. |
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Could the absence of these cars be a result of BMW owning Mini and avoiding too much overlap per the marketing guys at Mini? |
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agree, my salesman has called me once a week offering the newest and greatest M3...
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