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This will depend on the CS price tag. If it comes in under let's say $80K then that will hurt the value. Over that and it will have less impact. Sound reasonable?
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09-26-2017, 10:12 AM | #91 | |
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I don't think the M2 in any form will be as light as a Cayman, as BMWs pursuit of satisfying the luxo- craving masses is still in full effect. |
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09-26-2017, 10:23 AM | #92 |
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Honestly, I prefer an M2 CS to a Cayman GT4, as the BMW has a more special badass criminal looking (IMO), is twin turbo, and has 4 seats. You can enjoy it every day, both on a race track and in a normal road. The Gt4 is a wonderful machine, but made for a specific use, more track oriented. And......I would not spend over 80/90K Euros or more, for a car that doesn't have A/C or the DAB radio. The M2, with the S55, I guess it will be better that the GT4 on a race track, with some M perf. mech adjustments.
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09-26-2017, 01:18 PM | #100 | |
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A LOT of M car buyers, especially here in Southern California, buy the M car because it's expensive, because it has very flashy styling, and because it has a name that catches people's ears when you tell them what you drive (M3 sounds so much cooler than 340i, tons of people who don't care about cars know what an M3 is) so M gmbh has made these cars into very, very excellent everyday cars. In my opinion, this leaves plenty of room for a CS model to have more track-focused suspension, brakes, more power, etc. and a CSL that takes this a few steps further with serious weight reduction. The M4 CS has me a little worried, that car is kind of the opposite of what I had hoped for: A stock M4 with a stripped down interior (with mostly stock suspension, brakes, diff, etc. aside from reprogramming) doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Last edited by Remonster; 09-26-2017 at 01:30 PM.. |
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People want a more luxurious car will still buy the M4 with the ZCP option ticked. I think pricing wise it will not be too different from a regular M3. So expect a similar engine output. |
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09-26-2017, 03:06 PM | #103 | |
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What did they do the M4 to offset all the extra weight it should have gained by being 8" longer? |
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09-26-2017, 03:23 PM | #104 | |
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CF Trunk CF seats (internal structure) CF Driveshaft Aluminum front fenders Aluminum hood |
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09-26-2017, 03:24 PM | #105 |
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If it takes the place of the base M2 we might as well drive our pre CS M2s into a river, because that's about how much they're going to be worth.
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09-26-2017, 03:33 PM | #106 | |
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I hate to say this, but I am almost hoping for a higher CS price tag for this reason. And also I don't want it to be too tempting. Plus, I already started saving for the CSL anyway. |
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09-26-2017, 03:35 PM | #107 |
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I'll probably get burned at the stake but I prefer the power delivery of my N55 in my M2 vs the S55 in my F80. F80 still feels like it's laggy and doesn't make crazy power until 4k+. I use my cars mostly on the street and the N55 feels more responsive off idle to me.
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09-26-2017, 03:43 PM | #108 | |
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Seriously though California trade in is not favorable for taxes so I should not be buying anything new anyway. I should just hope the M2 I have is reliable and lasts for many miles! I really do like the idea of having the very best (daily drivable) version of it though. Not sure BMW is going to make cars like this ever after this gen is phased out. Last edited by akkando; 09-26-2017 at 03:48 PM.. |
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09-26-2017, 03:48 PM | #110 |
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What this says to me is that the rear seats will not be split folding, meaning they are going for some weight reduction but without losing too much of the functionality. Right in line with what M says their plans are for the CS.
M = Street car CS = Street car that can track CSL = Track car that can street
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