[mmmpassion]

Originally Posted by blackholescion

Good questions. I misread your first question so I didn't test rolling up to a light. I thought you had written leaving from a light.

A) leaving from a stop in 2nd, it won't rev up or down. You have to be smoother on the clutch release. That having been said it won't stall either. If you are in second and side step the clutch, the car will lurch, big down, and jerk and drop to 500ish rpm but it won't shut off. I haven't tried seeing the stall point in traffic but I'd imagine the car acts like any manual. When I let the RPMs drop too low, it bogged down, started lurching, and I didn't want to be the idiot who stalls their car

B) on flat ground, I was able to get the car into 5th with no throttle. The car speeds up with each gear to maintain what it needs to not stall so I was at 30MPH by the time I ran out of road. I'm sure I could have shifted into 6th but I ran out of road. However, the same behavior as A above was observed. It wouldn't rev up since the wheels were already in motion. But I could let out the clutch smoothly and relatively quickly and the shifts were smooth and easy without fear of stalling.

Hope this helps give you an idea. If you want a video to help see it better, I can go make one. I just didn't have anyone with me earlier to take the video.

Thanks a lot. So not too intrusive (what was hoping for). Personally, rev matching is fine for me but I was kind of irritated what in addition will be "auto" besides this. With a smooth inline 6 zylinder I am expecting to use the full potential of "low rev area" which seems to be possible.

DCT in my M3 E92 is overall great but in traffic I am missing full control over clutch and rpm of the engine. In some situations rmp for a soft start at the trafic light is too high for my taste with the DCT. But BMW DCT is still better in this regard compared with PDK of some Porsches in Sports mode.

[blackholescion]

Originally Posted by mmmpassion

Thanks a lot. So not too intrusive (what was hoping for). Personally, rev matching is fine for me but I was kind of irritated what in addition will be "auto" besides this. With a smooth inline 6 zylinder I am expecting to use the full potential of "low rev area" which seems to be possible.

DCT in my M3 E92 is overall great but in traffic I am missing full control over clutch and rpm of the engine. In some situations rmp for a soft start at the trafic light is too high for my taste with the DCT. But BMW DCT is still better in this regard compared with PDK of some Porsches in Sports mode.

Yeah. It's not too intrusive. Coming from a manual car with none of these features, the M2 drives like any other manual with the exception of you don't really have to worry about stalling and you get perfect rev matches 100% of the time which can be turned off with dsc off or coding it out as others have mentioned on the forum. Other than that, it does feel like a true manual.

[Mudnut]

Hey guys,

Just a quick question about engine braking with the rev matching that takes place. I commute up and down a fantastic mountain road, and would like engine braking to help with my regular braking.

Does the rev matching eliminate downshift engine braking? I know the engine is very torquey so might be limited by that, but I guess I just want to know if there if good engine braking without having to shift into second gear at 80kph.

Cheers,

Ken

[D CHOI]

Can you move the car forward on an uphill without throttle and no stall?

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by atxsk8r

+1

Awesome feature and makes the car more fun to drive.

Also like the feature where the car will creep (auto rev) in 1st gear from a dead stop without giving it gas, just let out the clutch, great for driving in traffic

Torque does this. I can pretty much continue and pull from any rolling speed above 3 mph in my 1M without using the clutch at all ...

Of course if you have a car that has auto rev March you just never even know

[blackholescion]

Originally Posted by Mudnut

Hey guys,

Just a quick question about engine braking with the rev matching that takes place. I commute up and down a fantastic mountain road, and would like engine braking to help with my regular braking.

Does the rev matching eliminate downshift engine braking? I know the engine is very torquey so might be limited by that, but I guess I just want to know if there if good engine braking without having to shift into second gear at 80kph.

Cheers,

Ken

it does eliminate the braking cased by slipping the clutch while shifting into a lower gear. But once it's in that lower gear, normal engine braking that would be present in that gear takes over.

Originally Posted by DCHOI

Can you move the car forward on an uphill without throttle and no stall?

Yes. Bonus feature: you can do it in reverse too.

[Mudnut]

[QUOTE=blackholescion;20781351]it does eliminate the braking cased by slipping the clutch while shifting into a lower gear. But once it's in that lower gear, normal engine braking that would be present in that gear takes over.



Thanks

Ken

[seis-speed]

Originally Posted by RPM2-85

So you put the M2 in sport+ and do it yourself.

I don't have the M2 yet. From what I have read you turn off traction control in the M2 to disable auto-rev. In the M3 you turn it off by having throttle set at sports+.

[ryem3]

After driving one, I felt like the car was also rev matching on the way UP. Up shifts were very smooth. You can just seamlessly move up or down a gear. Was that happening or was I just imagining things?

[blackholescion]

Originally Posted by ryem3

After driving one, I felt like the car was also rev matching on the way UP. Up shifts were very smooth. You can just seamlessly move up or down a gear. Was that happening or was I just imagining things?

I haven't paid attention too much since I shift fast anyway but most modern manuals will hold revs for a split second to allow for this so it wouldn't be surprising if the M2 did it as well.

[jtfields]

I just picked up my car this weekend and the rev matching will definitely take some getting use to. More than once I've been coming up to a red light and I shift the car into neutral and had to apply the brakes a little before I downshift and the rev match has startled me into thinking I accidentally hit the gas instead of the brakes.

[reppucci]

Originally Posted by ryem3

After driving one, I felt like the car was also rev matching on the way UP. Up shifts were very smooth. You can just seamlessly move up or down a gear. Was that happening or was I just imagining things?

yes it will rev match up and down. If however you hold the clutch in and delay the shift the rev match will deactivate and the revs will drop.

[D CHOI]

Originally Posted by jtfields

I just picked up my car this weekend and the rev matching will definitely take some getting use to. More than once I've been coming up to a red light and I shift the car into neutral and had to apply the brakes a little before I downshift and the rev match has startled me into thinking I accidentally hit the gas instead of the brakes.

Yea I feel ya... I test drove a corvette for fun and the auto rev match coming to a stop light definitely felt unusual.

[aksi]

Good for people who like it.
But BMW should have at least put a button in the car to turn on and off the feature.

[SupraSaiyan]

Do your M2's auto blip when you go from 5th or 6th to neutral? Mine does a small blip whenever I'm in 5th or 6th gear and putting in neutral while coming to a stop.

[gmzanatta]

Originally Posted by SupraSaiyan

Do your M2's auto blip when you go from 5th or 6th to neutral? Mine does a small blip whenever I'm in 5th or 6th gear and putting in neutral while coming to a stop.

Only if you're pulling it close to the gate for a lower gear - the car gets tricked into thinking you'll downshift since you're at the gate.

[Corinne]

Originally Posted by pup73

I leave for work by 6a daily...I have a DP and muffler delete. I still pull out of my garage in Sport+; luckily my house is close to our development's exit

-c

Yes, I think it's extremely thoughtful of you not to deprive your neighbours of the wonderful sound of an unsilenced M2 at 6 am. They shouldn't be in bed at that time anyway

[quikM2]

Absolutely love the rev match - mated with the MPE the blips sound glorious in any mode.

Side note quick question (yes i know its not on topic ) - how do I change the profile on how the car loads up, it always boots up in comfort mode and I have to change it to sport, or is that just the way it is?

[AlexCirci]

Originally Posted by quikM2

Absolutely love the rev match - mated with the MPE the blips sound glorious in any mode.

Side note quick question (yes i know its not on topic ) - how do I change the profile on how the car loads up, it always boots up in comfort mode and I have to change it to sport, or is that just the way it is?

Unfortunately that's just the way it is.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by quikM2

Side note quick question (yes i know its not on topic ) - how do I change the profile on how the car loads up, it always boots up in comfort mode and I have to change it to sport, or is that just the way it is?

It was born that way.

After you start the engine, make a habit of pushing also the "Auto Start Stop" button located above the Start/Stop button (if you want to deactivate that function) + push the SPORT button. No biggie.

[D CHOI]

Originally Posted by Artemis

It was born that way.

After you start the engine, make a habit of pushing also the "Auto Start Stop" button located above the Start/Stop button (if you want to deactivate that function) + push the SPORT button. No biggie.

I believe the "Auto Start Stop" remembers the setting so that you don't have to push it every time? O wait just realized you are in Belgium so perhaps it's different there.

[Benef1cient]

Or use Bimmercode and let it remember the last setting like in US