[Royaldan]

I am thinking to buy M2 Performance edition. Since it's only 150 production cars. Would M2 Performance Edition be a high value collectable car? And What if I want to buy and sell it, how much does it worth it?

[juyeop]

I don't know about the performance edition being collectible's car when only difference between regular m2 and the edition is a manual seat really. I know the edition comes equipped with other goodies, but those can be easily obtainable on regular m2 too like all M performance accessories and M driver package. Even the manual seat is same upholstery like the power seat. My conclusion is that it will not be the collectible's car, but who am I to predict really? haha

[Bimmed Out]

Just because something is limited, doesn't make it special or particularly desirable.

[Artemis]

Well, there are many BMW enthusiasts in the US, the BMW M2 Performance Edition was released several weeks ago, press reported about it, only 150 cars worldwide, and your post proves that even today you can still get one. So, what do you reckon ?

Five more M2 PE that still didn't manage to find buyers (reported on this forum): here, here, here, here and (possibly) here.

If dealers bought all those cars, BMW can say - technically speaking - that "all are sold", even if these keep sitting at dealer lots. M4 GTS same story: if you still want one, keep looking. Some dealers still got an M4 GTS for sale. If dealers had a greedy business plan in mind expecting to sell those cars with a hefty mark-up, then those cars turned out to be rather 'Holy Fail' than 'Holy Grail' from a mark-up point of view.

But if you ask about value: ask yourself what value it has for you. Go drive the M2. It's fun.

[reppucci]

In late 1993 BMWNA issued about 150 MY94 325is E36 M-technic vehicles. It preceeded the E36 M3 launch, had M3 mirrors, front bumper and 17" bbs-type wheels. Came in only AW and had motorsport door handle. It had an M50 not an S50 engine and a sports suspension. It was used to gauge US Market interest for the E36 M3 which was launched several months later.

325is 1994 M-Technic

Hemmings M-Tech

and here

That was a limited production. Very rare car. Same number as the E36 M3 LTW. Anyone here know about it? Anyone see it on sale for a lot of money? It does have some value but not that much. Small price bump.

I predict the M2 Performance edition will not be collectible. Perhaps in 25 years a small price bump because of the manual seats.

Now if you get the performance edition with a 6MT.... that may be different !

[DoggieHowser]

In Australia you can get a Pure Edition which is manual only. Without comfort access. Without Heated, motorized memory seats. Without adaptive bixenons.

That's not limited in production numbers.

You can add the M Performance parts locally.

I'm guessing it's not going to be any more collectible than a regular M2.

Even the 997.1 GT3 RS with a 4.0l engine has dropped in desirability since they announced a new 4.0l engine for the 997.2 with even higher rev limits. I'm guessing the 911R flippers are going to be hit soon when you can the same transmission and that better engine with the 997.2 GT3

[Aronis]

Originally Posted by reppucci

In late 1993 BMWNA issued about 150 MY94 325is E36 M-technic vehicles. It preceeded the E36 M3 launch, !

I had one of those M-tech 325is and it was also a special order in an 850 only color, smoke metallic grey. It was a very nice, I traded it for a 97 M3.

Mike

[jhall1957]

By it because you like it and want to drive it! I bought my 1M and the M2 PE for that reason and the heck with these haters who most simply can't afford it or their leased car isn't up yet.

If you want a great, white, basically stripped car that sounds great and has a nice coil over suspension, buy it!

I picked mine up last evening and love it!

[Bazgab]

I think it might command a small premium in the future for a buyer that is looking for a track toy because of the m performance parts already on it, not because it is a "limited" production car. Conversely, I think it will be worth the same or less than a standard M2 for someone looking for a DD.

I personally passed on two incoming PE M2s while I was still looking for an allocation. The extra premium just wasn't worth it to me when I got my 2017 M2 w/ Exec for just under $52k.

[stren]

Not significantly more than any other vanilla M2. If you want collectible buy a 1/M.

[430409M2]

I'm quite happy that the M2 PE isn't considered collectible. Now I don't feel guilty for enjoying to drive it so much.

[nachob]

Originally Posted by kepler

Just because something is limited, doesn't make it special or particularly desirable.

I agree, part of the problem is that they quote low numbers like 150 but the cars are not significantly different than other cars. Like the Lime Rock M3s or Mustangs with a new paint scheme. Yes, they are "limited editions" but of a similar car. So they might get a little extra money but not really collectible unless there was something significantly special. I look at M3 30 Jahre and it looks cool and only a few made but not significantly special in my book to become truly collectible.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by 430409M2

I'm quite happy that the M2 PE isn't considered collectible. Now I don't feel guilty for enjoying to drive it so much.

Enjoy the true fact that your M2 PE is among the fastest M2 of the whole US. As your car features the M Driver's Package (BMW option 7ME), top speed of your car is 168mph (270 km/h) instead of 155mph (250 km/h). It's also indicated in your car documents. Activated during the 1200 mile first maintenance (dealer uses a unique key/code provided by BMW M to unlock this V-max delimit in the system).

All you need is an Autobahn.

[Spa2k]

Unless you're playing in the upper reaches of the automotive stratosphere (think Ford GT and some Ferraris), don't buy a new car - even a "limited-production" one - as an investment. You'll get burned, especially if you don't have a 20- or 25-year timeline. Invest your money in the stock market or buy two $30K American muscle cars instead.

Buy the M2 with PE (or any car) because you smile everytime you look at it and get that special feeling in your shorts whenever you drive it.

The best "investments" in cars are the ones that are truly trendsetters. For BMWs during the last 25 years, that means the E30 M3 and the Z8 (and Alpina V8). There was nothing like those cars in their price ranges at the time, and long-term, they have been recognized for their special attributes. But it took many years for that to happen. The 1M is fast earning a spot on the list too.

There's a rule of thumb in the collector car industry that a vehicle can't reach collectible status until it's 20 or 25 years old - unless, perhaps, it was a groundbreaking design during its time and became an icon in the hobby. (Think '63 Corvette Split-Window.) And, as far as the 20 or 25 "rule," just look at a common high-interest car like the Corvette - the market treats them as old, depreciating cars until they hit that magic number.

Also note that while certain options or the lack of certain options can make a car more valuable (like a big tank, the largest engine or a manual transmission in a Corvette), an option package like the PE on a car like the M2 doesn't make it inherently more valuable than an M2 without it. It's a very nice package, but it's still an option package on the M2 - not an exclusive model. In fact, the PE may even been worth less in 20-25 years, since the number of people wanting one will be a smaller group in the future than the ones looking at all M2s; i.e., it will be tougher to find a qualified buyer who recognizes the true value of the M2 with PE package. On the other hand, I would expect the short-term resale value of an M2 with PE to be worth more than another M2 just because its original MSRP is higher - but it is going to depreciate.

Finally, you can't control the world, Congress, the President, the EPA or auto manufacturers. The overbearing 2025 CAFE standards are going to change to something more reasonable. Do you remember a couple of years ago when Chrysler said it was going to stop building V8 engines? Or how about the people who paid outrageous dealer markups for Shelby GT350s, knowing they were in short supply and would go up in value? Then came the complaints about quality and the "limp mode" problem, where 70% of the GT350s sold 2015-2016 potentially were prone to overheating and shutting down. Now there's a class-action suit against Ford for producing what turned out to be not the "Most track-ready Mustang ever built." And last fall, GT350 owners got a recall notice for a bad oil-cooler line and were advised to park their cars until the parts for the fix were available - which took 6 months. (The production line was shut down for 6 months too.) What do you think that did to the value of GT350s? Cars that might have sold at auction for $110-$120 last summer now are no-sales at $70K.

Enjoy your PE. It's a great car, but it's not going to make you rich.

[SW19]

Originally Posted by 430409M2

I'm quite happy that the M2 PE isn't considered collectible. Now I don't feel guilty for enjoying to drive it so much.

Does your performance edition have the new updated MPE with the red button in the trunk?

[m34m]

Originally Posted by Spa2k

Unless you're playing in the upper reaches of the automotive stratosphere (think Ford GT and some Ferraris), don't buy a new car - even a "limited-production" one - as an investment. You'll get burned, especially if you don't have a 20- or 25-year timeline. Invest your money in the stock market or buy two $30K American muscle cars instead.

Buy the M2 with PE (or any car) because you smile everytime you look at it and get that special feeling in your shorts whenever you drive it.

The best "investments" in cars are the ones that are truly trendsetters. For BMWs during the last 25 years, that means the E30 M3 and the Z8 (and Alpina V8). There was nothing like those cars in their price ranges at the time, and long-term, they have been recognized for their special attributes. But it took many years for that to happen. The 1M is fast earning a spot on the list too.

There's a rule of thumb in the collector car industry that a vehicle can't reach collectible status until it's 20 or 25 years old - unless, perhaps, it was a groundbreaking design during its time and became an icon in the hobby. (Think '63 Corvette Split-Window.) And, as far as the 20 or 25 "rule," just look at a common high-interest car like the Corvette - the market treats them as old, depreciating cars until they hit that magic number.

Also note that while certain options or the lack of certain options can make a car more valuable (like a big tank, the largest engine or a manual transmission in a Corvette), an option package like the PE on a car like the M2 doesn't make it inherently more valuable than an M2 without it. It's a very nice package, but it's still an option package on the M2 - not an exclusive model. In fact, the PE may even been worth less in 20-25 years, since the number of people wanting one will be a smaller group in the future than the ones looking at all M2s; i.e., it will be tougher to find a qualified buyer who recognizes the true value of the M2 with PE package. On the other hand, I would expect the short-term resale value of an M2 with PE to be worth more than another M2 just because its original MSRP is higher - but it is going to depreciate.

Finally, you can't control the world, Congress, the President, the EPA or auto manufacturers. The overbearing 2025 CAFE standards are going to change to something more reasonable. Do you remember a couple of years ago when Chrysler said it was going to stop building V8 engines? Or how about the people who paid outrageous dealer markups for Shelby GT350s, knowing they were in short supply and would go up in value? Then came the complaints about quality and the "limp mode" problem, where 70% of the GT350s sold 2015-2016 potentially were prone to overheating and shutting down. Now there's a class-action suit against Ford for producing what turned out to be not the "Most track-ready Mustang ever built." And last fall, GT350 owners got a recall notice for a bad oil-cooler line and were advised to park their cars until the parts for the fix were available - which took 6 months. (The production line was shut down for 6 months too.) What do you think that did to the value of GT350s? Cars that might have sold at auction for $110-$120 last summer now are no-sales at $70K.

Enjoy your PE. It's a great car, but it's not going to make you rich.

Great write up and I agree completely. The 991 GT3 RS is probably an exception to your premise.

[430409M2]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Enjoy the true fact that your M2 PE is among the fastest M2 of the whole US. As your car features the M Driver's Package (BMW option 7ME), top speed of your car is 168mph (270 km/h) instead of 155mph (250 km/h). It's also indicated in your car documents. Activated during the 1200 mile first maintenance (dealer uses a unique key/code provided by BMW M to unlock this V-max delimit in the system).

All you need is an Autobahn.

If only die Autobahnen here in the states were de-restricted sometime/somewhere

Originally Posted by Nantucket

Does your performance edition have the new updated MPE with the red button in the trunk?

I have the flip switch. Sometimes the vibration is felt/heard, other times not.

Car was built 3/13.

[Franzino]

Originally Posted by DoggieHowser

In Australia you can get a Pure Edition which is manual only. Without comfort access. Without Heated, motorized memory seats. Without adaptive bixenons.

That's not limited in production numbers.

You can add the M Performance parts locally.

I'm guessing it's not going to be any more collectible than a regular M2.

Even the 997.1 GT3 RS with a 4.0l engine has dropped in desirability since they announced a new 4.0l engine for the 997.2 with even higher rev limits. I'm guessing the 911R flippers are going to be hit soon when you can the same transmission and that better engine with the 997.2 GT3

You mean the new 991.2 GT3...the 997 is the model before the 991.

[DoggieHowser]

Yeah 991.2. Force of habit. Not used to adding a . Anything after the 991 yet ?

[stefan]

I'm pretty sure these purely cosmetic "editions" don't affect desireability long term.

[bim2er]

Originally Posted by DoggieHowser

Yeah 991.2. Force of habit. Not used to adding a . Anything after the 991 yet ?

If no more decimal point editions appear, the next 911 will be a 992 which is due in 2019. Spy photos of what is believed to be a 992 exist.

[DoggieHowser]

https://drivetribe.com/p/HmOlstS0TTi...source=organic

Ooops looks like the Rs are probably going to take a hit too