[Nicname]

Originally Posted by cole3488

in regards to em-toos post below have you tried a cayman s out? it might be a nice option to get a v6 rwd car and from the majority of peoples opinion the pdk is the best of the dual clutch transmissions.

Never tried the cayman but I had the pleasure of driving a 2015 turbo s. Hands down one of the best transmissions even though I feel BMW does the best with downshifts and the notes.

[CrashFL]

You're going to love either car-- what a great decision to face!! The Audi interior is far nicer, and it has AWD, which can be good depending on where you live and how you drive. I greatly prefer the M2's exterior, and I want a manual transmission & rear wheel drive. I don't want my car to be better behaved than I am.

[Pyrat 2]

You make the call. Either will be fine. Based upon your initial description the Audi may be your better choice. You know it will be unique, you like the interior and exterior, and you don't value the track capability of the M2 which is a key strength. Plus you can get the Audi now without having to trying to get a car that is temporarily in high demand because it was just released.

[gtr]

Originally Posted by F87LUV

Nicname,

Audis never really appealed to me. There are a few models that I like but overall, not a fan. They're too understated.

Go drive the 2017 R8. Wow, that car is so much quicker than the last gen and very nimble. It also pulls like mad. Very cool car and will consider it.

As for the OP go do what I did and go Macan GTS. Nice interior and a great drive with lots of room! I feel it's the better F80. But I love the M3 therefore I'm getting the M2, lol.

[csbear]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

Hey man, first I'll keep my opinions out of the first part.

3) Back seats of the TTS are not even back seats, where as the M2's are 100% usable. My buddy who is also over 6 foot Sat in the back and said it was perfectly fine.

I looked at the TTS, and as much as I love the front, I absolutely dislike the 1990's styled fenders on it. I don't like how they have a tacked on appearance.

Some great points here. The TTS back seats don't make any sense to me. Audi should just make it a 2 seater and just extend the trunk or just make better use of the rear somehow.

I'm with you in that the front of the TTS is really cool looking, and I love it, but the rest of the car is a let down for me. Audi could easily do a much better job with the design of the TT, but they want to keep that iconic TT look intact, unfortunately.

Looks are subjective though, but I would still go M2 over TTS. Now the TT-RS is a different story... I do still consider the TTRS as a possibility as my next car....if only I can grow on the looks, lol!

Compared to the TTS:
-M2 (IMO) looks better.
-M2 performs better (at least from what I see)
-M2 has more practicality


Now since it was mentioned, IF you could get a Cayman or Cayman S and are ok not having additional seats, I would not hesitate. Even with the turbo 4 I can't say enough how good Caymans are. My brother just came back from the Porsche Experience in ATL this past weekend, and he was blown away with what Caymans are capable of (he has a 911 GTS). I understand you may not track it, but man, they are such fun cars.

Except for something like a Lotus Exige or Evora 400, there are few cars out there that can carve roads like a Cayman. Price is a major factor though, no doubt! But I would take a lightly optioned Cayman over many, many cars.

[F87LUV]

Originally Posted by gtr

Go drive the 2017 R8. Wow, that car is so much quicker than the last gen and very nimble. It also pulls like mad. Very cool car and will consider it.

As for the OP go do what I did and go Macan GTS. Nice interior and a great drive with lots of room! I feel it's the better F80. But I love the M3 therefore I'm getting the M2, lol.

Lol. You can't even test drive one without a 5k deposit.

[atxsk8r]

Originally Posted by F87LUV

Lol. You can't even test drive one without a 5k deposit.

That's what i was thinking. I read that and was like "WTH?? Who gets to walk up and test drive an R8?" lol

[hoyasaxa]

The TTS is a shiny Golf R. If you want that, go for it. I test drove the new/current gen TT and it was a dog. The TTS has the same motor as the S3. The comparable performance car will be the TTRS, IF it is imported to the US. In any event, it will be probably $10k more than the M2.

The biggest problem I have with the M2 is that its performance puts it in reach of great cars like the Cayman, but it is so much less expensive that there's no rational basis to cross-shop the two on price. If you're in the market for a $70k car you're not getting the M2. And if you're in the market for a $55k car, you're not about to step up $15k into a Cayman. It's a real bitch.

All that said, I'm turning in my 228 and taking ED of an M2 next year in all likelihood.

[pruettfan]

OP, I love the M2 and I am a BMW guy but if you like the TTS which you clearly do that might be the way to go. I can tell you that life changes quickly when your married so I would get the car that really gets you excited now because once kids come your desires take a back seat for quite a few years. Another car to consider is the Cayman, you can find really nice used ones (1-2 years old with less than 10,000) for about the same as an M2.

[gtr]

Originally Posted by atxsk8r

That's what i was thinking. I read that and was like "WTH?? Who gets to walk up and test drive an R8?" lol

Doors always open to existing customers . The test drive did get to me thinking just like the M2.



The S3 is the closest thing to the TT. I can say that the M2 is the better car and more fun. The Cayman is nice but too much of a weekend car. I would say if you want a weekend car go with the Boxster Spyder or GT4. More extreme and more satisfying mentally. The M2 you can actually daily drive without much compromise therefore that is the better car to get for most people.

[dammitcubs]

I like LBB as well...

I admire it every day

[Nicname]

Originally Posted by hoyasaxa

The TTS is a shiny Golf R. If you want that, go for it. I test drove the new/current gen TT and it was a dog. The TTS has the same motor as the S3. The comparable performance car will be the TTRS, IF it is imported to the US. In any event, it will be probably $10k more than the M2.

The biggest problem I have with the M2 is that its performance puts it in reach of great cars like the Cayman, but it is so much less expensive that there's no rational basis to cross-shop the two on price. If you're in the market for a $70k car you're not getting the M2. And if you're in the market for a $55k car, you're not about to step up $15k into a Cayman. It's a real bitch.

All that said, I'm turning in my 228 and taking ED of an M2 next year in all likelihood.

That's a really good point. I guess it's coming down to looks vs performance. I don't need the back seats and I did fit my girlfriend in the back to test it out but no doubt the M2 is more practical. However, the Audi does have awd which makes it great for NY/NJ weather. I guess I'll have to schedule somehow a M2 test drive. Thanks guys!

[gtr]

If you're going AWD you should consider checking out the new A5/S5 coming out around the corner I believe.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by F87LUV

Nicname,

Audis never really appealed to me. There are a few models that I like but overall, not a fan. They're too understated. The M2 is definitely a daily driver. I do like, maybe love it but I haven't decided yet. I've been commuting into NYC as well to get the break in miles out of the way. How many are going to be on the streets is anyone's guess at the current moment but as with every other car, you're never going to be with only with one so get something you like. In hindsight, I should've went with a 911. The M2 isn't small enough in a way. It feels too big but every new BMW is. Have you considered a Cayman S?

I'm definitely in the minority here when I say that I think the M2 was a bit overhyped in a way. Most of the people on the forum, will say get the M2 because they're already in love with theirs. I'm on the fence but I haven't really "driven" my car yet.

This is the kind of opinion that I am interested in - one that can balance the excitement of a new car with what the true impressions of the thing might be, whether those are good or bad in nature. Magazine articles are only good for pictures or to see the car in motion, so the universal praise for the car in that area just doesn't mean a whole lot.

I definitely fell for the hype with the 235, and the M2 should be much much better than that, but I think experiences like yours are why multiple test drives and/or a decent amount of seat time prior to pulling the trigger is always necessary for me moving forward.

I bet you could get rid of the M2 pretty easily right now, just given how early it is in the production cycle...AND without losing much. I will be interested to see which direction you go.

EDIT - I have to agree with you on Audi, at least from the "drive" perspective. Their interiors are awesome though...

[F87LUV]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

This is the kind of opinion that I am interested in - one that can balance the excitement of a new car with what the true impressions of the thing might be, whether those are good or bad in nature. Magazine articles are only good for pictures or to see the car in motion, so the universal praise for the car in that area just doesn't mean a whole lot.

I definitely fell for the hype with the 235, and the M2 should be much much better than that, but I think experiences like yours are why multiple test drives and/or a decent amount of seat time prior to pulling the trigger is always necessary for me moving forward.

I bet you could get rid of the M2 pretty easily right now, just given how early it is in the production cycle...AND without losing much. I will be interested to see which direction you go.

EDIT - I have to agree with you on Audi, at least from the "drive" perspective. Their interiors are awesome though...

I think I'm just too picky and not many cars would be considered perfection in my eyes at my current price point. I cross shopped for six months. I must sound crazy but I kind of miss my Z4. If they made a new Z4M, I would be all over that but from what I can tell, it'll just get bigger and more expensive.

If I could break even, there's a good chance I would think to sell it but 100% sure. Our state tax is high here so i would have to sell it at a "markup" which no one would pay. My service is Monday so maybe I'll change my mind then.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by F87LUV

I think I'm just too picky and not many cars would be considered perfection in my eyes at my current price point. I cross shopped for six months. I must sound crazy but I kind of miss my Z4. If they made a new Z4M, I would be all over that but from what I can tell, it'll just get bigger and more expensive.

If I could break even, there's a good chance I would think to sell it but 100% sure. Our state tax is high here so i would have to sell it at a "markup" which no one would pay. My service is Monday so maybe I'll change my mind then.

My dad had a 2007 Z4MC, and it is the only car anyone in the family has had that is comparable to my 981 - that thing was just sick. Favorite BMW that we ever had to be sure - and they cost a mint now too.

Looking forward to the post break-in observations.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Nicname

That's a really good point. I guess it's coming down to looks vs performance. I don't need the back seats and I did fit my girlfriend in the back to test it out but no doubt the M2 is more practical. However, the Audi does have awd which makes it great for NY/NJ weather. I guess I'll have to schedule somehow a M2 test drive. Thanks guys!

Damn too bad I missed this part of the comparo..

[longbeachbluem2]

Originally Posted by gtr

If you're going AWD you should consider checking out the new A5/S5 coming out around the corner I believe.

I have been holding out for the new A5/S5 line for a couple years now, but the problem is that Audi has been dropping the MT across the board. I have been a fan of both Audi and BMW for a while now. I'm dailying the Allroad 6MT (project car with the hope of swapping turbos etc.), but have the 2002 as a summer driver. I agree with others that the interior of the Audi's are appealing and tech is awesome, but at this point I'm looking for more power and RWD (not to mention ED which I know Audi offers as well). Depending on the wait might consider Cayman S.

[scoale]

Originally Posted by F87LUV

Nicname,

Audis never really appealed to me. There are a few models that I like but overall, not a fan. They're too understated. The M2 is definitely a daily driver. I do like, maybe love it but I haven't decided yet. I've been commuting into NYC as well to get the break in miles out of the way. How many are going to be on the streets is anyone's guess at the current moment but as with every other car, you're never going to be with only with one so get something you like. In hindsight, I should've went with a 911. The M2 isn't small enough in a way. It feels too big but every new BMW is. Have you considered a Cayman S?

I'm definitely in the minority here when I say that I think the M2 was a bit overhyped in a way. Most of the people on the forum, will say get the M2 because they're already in love with theirs. I'm on the fence but I haven't really "driven" my car yet.

Plus 1 on considering the Cayman S. I have a 981 BS (daily a 335 is coupe) and it is a truly exceptional car. Thinking I'll trade my IS for an M2 when things cool down, but if I could only have one car it would be a Cayman S.

[scoale]

Originally Posted by F87LUV

Nicname,

Audis never really appealed to me. There are a few models that I like but overall, not a fan. They're too understated. The M2 is definitely a daily driver. I do like, maybe love it but I haven't decided yet. I've been commuting into NYC as well to get the break in miles out of the way. How many are going to be on the streets is anyone's guess at the current moment but as with every other car, you're never going to be with only with one so get something you like. In hindsight, I should've went with a 911. The M2 isn't small enough in a way. It feels too big but every new BMW is. Have you considered a Cayman S?

I'm definitely in the minority here when I say that I think the M2 was a bit overhyped in a way. Most of the people on the forum, will say get the M2 because they're already in love with theirs. I'm on the fence but I haven't really "driven" my car yet.

Plus 1 on considering the Cayman S. I have a 981 BS (daily a 335 is coupe) and it is a truly exceptional car. Thinking I'll trade my IS for an M2 when things cool down, but if I could only have one car it would be a Cayman S.

[bim2er]

Originally Posted by F87LUV

Nicname,

I'm on the fence but I haven't really "driven" my car yet.

If performance after break-in does not tip the scales one way or the other, maybe the 1 Day M School will.

[OrangeCrush]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

This is the kind of opinion that I am interested in - one that can balance the excitement of a new car with what the true impressions of the thing might be, whether those are good or bad in nature. Magazine articles are only good for pictures or to see the car in motion, so the universal praise for the car in that area just doesn't mean a whole lot.

I definitely fell for the hype with the 235, and the M2 should be much much better than that, but I think experiences like yours are why multiple test drives and/or a decent amount of seat time prior to pulling the trigger is always necessary for me moving forward.

I bet you could get rid of the M2 pretty easily right now, just given how early it is in the production cycle...AND without losing much. I will be interested to see which direction you go.

EDIT - I have to agree with you on Audi, at least from the "drive" perspective. Their interiors are awesome though...

Dude, she is still in break in and like she said, hasn't even driven the car yet and a lot of her little annoyances were coded in, by her.