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Don't think he was saying the cars are comparable. Judging by reviews and lap deltas they aren't. But the Cayman GT4 has much higher limits and is a precision machine to set fast lap times and be surgical whereas the M2 isn't competing at anywhere in that level but is fun to be a hooligan in. Then again it seems the GT4 can be a playful thing given its extreme poise and balance. I think the 718 S models are going to be great and much faster all over given the broad power band, strong top end and mid engine balance. The M2 seems like a fun car to drive but the lack of quality and the crooked seat would annoy me to no end. Gtr how are you liking the macan GTS? Car looks quite good and like a great car to drive as well. |
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Interesting review of M2 came from the GT4 owner, thank you ! I definitely need a DD car like M2.
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I love these threads. Nothing like a good M2/M3/M4 comparo to bring out the best in all of us. So much butt-hurt all around.
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OP, out of curiosity have you tracked the GT4 yet? Do you plan to?
Although I haven't driven an M2 yet, having come from an E92 M3 to a GT4, I can imagine what you mean about the M2 being more fun than a GT4 on the road because of its lower limits and "imperfection", and if I weren't going to the track at all, I never would have bought a GT4. Maybe an M2 or a Spyder, though even those would have been tough for me to justify to myself with no track time at all, but even though the GT4 feels very special even on the road, as you say it's also way overkill and you'd never escape the feeling that you weren't getting anywhere near what it could really offer in that setting, and trying to do so would land you in jail or in a coffin. I guess that's the reason that 80% of Porsche GT car owners take them to the track, and a fair chunk of the remaining 20% is probably collectors who bubble wrap the cars. Anyhow, I'm glad to see all of these great impressions of the M2. If I hadn't been able to get a GT4 and somehow also didn't have/want my E9x M3 anymore either, the M2 is increasingly looking like the BMW I would buy. I have my quibbles with it (exterior styling especially in the rear, basketball leather, disabling auto-blip requiring disabling DSC, turbo engine, maybe the seats depending on how they feel), but the F8x M4 didn't wow me at all, so I'm glad to know BMW still seems to have a modern car that I'd be interested in should the need ever arise. Yeah the interior isn't great compared to the F8x (never mind the GT4), but for the price point it seems reasonable enough, and like you I don't really pay much attention to the interior once I'm driving. Thanks for the write-up! Last edited by jphughan; 04-18-2016 at 03:37 PM.. |
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The M3/M4 is much more car in every way. The motor is a master piece compared to the N55, the car feels more planted, and then there are all the bespoke items (but that's not important here) I also wouldn't say the exhaust is a factor because after experiencing mine starting to break in and come alive and hearing them at the track, it sounds awesome. The LCI exhaust note is a bigger improvement then you have the comp packs now which are even better. Now having said all this, I am actually selling my F80 after short ownership and he reasons are: 1. Too big (even though it's practical and I have a child and possibly more in the future) I want drivers car and want to be selfish 2. I can't get over the numb throttle and artificial sound even though I don't mind it. When I jump back in my E46 it just confirms for me that NA is where I need to stay. And character is important 3. The % of time on the street that you can utilise the power is very minimal for me, having track days like I came back from though is where is shines. But I need to stay realistic 4. The F80 is 3 times the price of my E46 here but it is not 3 times the fun or exciting. I haven't had the urge to wake up early on a weekend and take it for a spirited drive like I still like to do. I think in the M2 would get me to do this. I'm still hoping for a M2 CS or whatever that can include what was missing for me as the desire for a new M car is in me. But for now E46 FTW for me. |
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So glad I've got my E46 still and I will keep that till I can get a Cayman GTS/GT4 or 911 of some sort or M2 CS |
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I thought you'd have the best of both worlds with your E46 still in hand.
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The GT4 uses Cup Tires, you're not going to break traction on the street. Put cheap tires on your GT4 for daily driving, that should change your mind.
I hated the look of the M2 in photos. I saw one in Minneapolis last week, it looks so much better on the highway. The hip is wide. I wouldn't mind getting an M2 in the future for track days.
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Both badges off, M2 is a better car overall.
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That type of drive makes a trip to Kroger worth it. You almost forget shit on your girl's list...just so you can go back and drive some more.
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(EDIT: Never mind. Saw the 981 GTS/GT4 post above.)
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I feel you man, I was just saying that every review so far has said the M2 is more fun, but I could definitely see someone thinking the M3 is more fun. Was just saying what the reviews said.
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I need this. Lol that's all I keep saying. Until then my car will slowly convert to racecar and by then racecar > streetcar.
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I'm happy you like your exhaust! Do you happen to have a video of one at high rpms? I have yet to hear a good sounding S55 but I realize that is a subjective thing. Consequently, I have yet to hear a bad sounding M2 exhaust. |
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Not only have I driven multiple M4s, but the M4 was $100 a month cheaper for me to lease. Still got the M2. It's that good. And sure, you can say things like looks, driving dynamics, sound, and fun factor are subjective - you're right. I'm sure there's a guy out there somewhere who genuinely prefers Rosie O'Donnell to Kate Upton. But don't pretend that most guys do |
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The M2 is a special value in its own way. Even in Oz. |
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