[Romo]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

I just read a review talking about the "
Rubbery " feel but saying it's the best BMW transmission yet .

All I know is I Haven't found a BMW that shifts as nicely as a Honda. But mine have been awesome

Wel that is a review, all I know is what I feel in my own car!

I have driven a E46 M3 6MT with a difficult 2nd gear to apply, a E92 M3 6MT, better, but not flawless, rubbery for sure, a E82 1M 6MT far more better.

Now the F87 M2 6MT has a gearbox witch is an evolution of the M3-4 6MT, that box is widely regarded as the best 6MT made by BMW.

So with all due respect, I think I`m entitled to say the current M2 6MT is the best made by BMW. (that is not only IMHO)

I`ve also driven several Honda`s in the past, such as the Honda CRX 1.6i 16V VTEC, it was an outstanding car, shifting real fine, but also with lack of feel.

[Artemis]

"Rubbery feel" ?

They got to specify two things:
- what do they exactly mean with "rubbery feel" ? that it's giving way a bit, flexible or jumpy ? not slotting smoothly ?
- more importantly: as test cars take quite a beating, how many reviewers have already tested (read: abused) the gearbox of the reviewed test car ?

[parrnan]

I've ordered my M2 with the DCT because it will be my daily driver 9 months a year and to be honest I'm not quite good with a manual transmission (too afraid of breaking something so I lose time shifting gears).

[michaeldorian]

Just test drove a DCT M2. Had a 6MT E92 before. As far as doing what DCT is suppose to it it was pretty spot on. Banging through gears in manual mode up an on-ramp is pretty sweet. And the rev-match downshifts is music. I did feel a bit bored at times though. I wonder if that was just me being a MT guy and need time to live in this new world.

The thing with DCT was rad and super fun when you're driving like an agro-maniac. I'm just afraid when you're not it's boring.

Next up is looking for a 6MT M3/M4 to really compare boxes.

Those with 6MT - How are you liking the auto rev matching feature? Does it take away anything? Makes it better?

[Romo]

Originally Posted by michaeldorian

Just test drove a DCT M2. Had a 6MT E92 before. As far as doing what DCT is suppose to it it was pretty spot on. Banging through gears in manual mode up an on-ramp is pretty sweet. And the rev-match downshifts is music. I did feel a bit bored at times though. I wonder if that was just me being a MT guy and need time to live in this new world.

The thing with DCT was rad and super fun when you're driving like an agro-maniac. I'm just afraid when you're not it's boring.

Next up is looking for a 6MT M3/M4 to really compare boxes.

Those with 6MT - How are you liking the auto rev matching feature? Does it take away anything? Makes it better?

It is a little weird in the beginning, but you get to used to it very quickly

I takes away motor braking an my own involvement.

I could do without it frankly, yes you can disable al electronic features, than you have to rev match your self.

[ArnoldRimmer]

Can any owners tell me what rpm the engine spins at when doing motorway/freeway speeds (say 70-80 mph) for the MT and DCT? One thing I've disliked on some previous cars is the final gear being too short with resultant high engine rpm when cruising.
Cheers

[michaeldorian]

Originally Posted by ArnoldRimmer

Can any owners tell me what rpm the engine spins at when doing motorway/freeway speeds (say 70-80 mph) for the MT and DCT? One thing I've disliked on some previous cars is the final gear being too short with resultant high engine rpm when cruising.
Cheers

This would be great information. I would also like to know this.

[Romo]

Originally Posted by ArnoldRimmer

Can any owners tell me what rpm the engine spins at when doing motorway/freeway speeds (say 70-80 mph) for the MT and DCT? One thing I've disliked on some previous cars is the final gear being too short with resultant high engine rpm when cruising.
Cheers

I have a 6MT

120km/h is 3K RPM 6th gear

[ArnoldRimmer]

Originally Posted by Romo

I have a 6MT

120km/h is 3K RPM 6th gear

Thanks Romo, any DCT owners supply the same info please?

[OrangeCrush]

Originally Posted by ArnoldRimmer

Thanks Romo, any DCT owners supply the same info please?

Just did it. Around 80mph in 7th was 2200-2300 rpms.

[nishmaster2k]

Heh, sounds like my E36 (not in a good way).

3k at 75mph sounds like 6th gear is a bit short. No overdrive?

Edit: 6th gear is .846 in the 6spd, .844 in the DCT. 7th in the DCT is a further .671.

[michaeldorian]

Originally Posted by OrangeCrush

Just did it. Around 80mph in 7th was 2200-2300 rpms.

This is the one negative about DCT. 3k at 75 seems like a lot. This is what I did not like about my STI too. I alway wish it had one more gear.

This is probably the MPG savings you see in DCT.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by OrangeCrush

Just did it. Around 80mph in 7th was 2200-2300 rpms.

Seventh.... ... It's like Three overdrives

[OrangeCrush]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Seventh.... ... It's like Three overdrives

Don't worry, the next Gen will have 9.

[ArnoldRimmer]

Originally Posted by OrangeCrush

Just did it. Around 80mph in 7th was 2200-2300 rpms.

Cheers for the info Orangecrush

[koastal]

I am amazed at the amount of people that go manual.

Cant all be cheapskates

[ArnoldRimmer]

Depends what you're after from your baby M. For me as a long term DD with a fair amount of autobahn cruising the extra gear of the DCT is a big plus, the additional economy and lower emissions will help keep running costs down too (only by a little I'll admit! ).
This will be my first BMW and only second auto (an old 4 spd in a Mitsubishi FTO MiVEC - how things have moved on! )

[Romo]

Originally Posted by Romo

I have a 6MT

120km/h is 3K RPM 6th gear

Excuse to all, I have to correct myself, tried this morning again;

6MT
120 km/h
2900RPM
6th gear

[ArnoldRimmer]

you lied to us by 100 rpm, how very dare you!!!!!

[jtodd_fl]

Originally Posted by Romo

Excuse to all, I have to correct myself, tried this morning again;

6MT
120 km/h
2900RPM
6th gear

I vote for ban. I read his first reply and canceled my order cuz 100rpm = #dealbreaker. Ban.

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by nishmaster2k

Heh, sounds like my E36 (not in a good way).

3k at 75mph sounds like 6th gear is a bit short. No overdrive?

Edit: 6th gear is .846 in the 6spd, .844 in the DCT. 7th in the DCT is a further .671.

In most places of the world it doesn't matter as much, but in Germany where on the Autobahn cruising speeds are 110+ miles per hour in the fast lane, that extra gear comes in handy on a long cruise. Once I was driving my Audi at 225 kph (140 mph) and a Mercedes S550 flew past me like I was stopped...I was hurt.

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

In most places of the world it doesn't matter as much, but in Germany where on the Autobahn cruising speeds are 110+ miles per hour in the fast lane, that extra gear comes in handy on a long cruise. Once I was driving my Audi at 225 kph (140 mph) and a Mercedes S550 flew past me like I was stopped...I was hurt.

That was me passing you, I couldn't get it in Reverse, sorry.



Cheers
Robin