[Inquisitor]

f87 with the n55 motor at 20-30k miles at 40-45k

or

30-40k s55 m2 for 50-55k

[///393]

Originally Posted by Inquisitor

f87 with the n55 motor at 20-30k miles at 40-45k

or

30-40k s55 m2 for 50-55k

Ideally you have a chance to drive both and make the choice based on your preference. Their dollar values are their dollar values and the market is efficient enough to price them both accordingly. Neither is a “better” buy, they’re just different buys.

Other factors like your desire to modify or participate in track events present different questions with different answers.

[DanG]

Originally Posted by Inquisitor

f87 with the n55 motor at 20-30k miles at 40-45k

or

30-40k s55 m2 for 50-55k

It matters what you want the M2 for. As a street car they are very similar performance wise. So I would go for the N55.

As a track car the S55 is superior. If you plan on doing a lot of track days I would go for the S55.

[m2ss]

n55 = strong and reliable

s55 = stronger and less reliable

[trey100]

Wait 6 months and the prices will drop. Then get the Comp at 45k. The supply chain issues and lack of G87 being out has kept the prices of both these examples exactly where they were 3 years ago. The end of that ride is near.

If the G97 gets delayed it may take a bit longer but once it’s out, regardless of the looks, it will drive those F87 prices down. At least that what I’m hoping.

[///393]

Originally Posted by DanG

As a track car the S55 is superior. If you plan on doing a lot of track days I would go for the S55.

Maybe if you’re building a time attack car for super lap battle in Texas. Otherwise the early cars are the better dual purpose car for the vast majority as it supports 18s, Schroth QFP harnesses, the blue brakes are less likely to experience pad knock back on track, pad swaps in the OG are WAY easier and it’s 150lb lighter.

The benefits of the S55 don’t come without drawbacks elsewhere. I can share my slide deck on the topic for anyone interested

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by Inquisitor

f87 with the n55 motor at 20-30k miles at 40-45k

or

30-40k s55 m2 for 50-55k

It 100% depends on personal preference and goals for the car.

Choose the N55 car for price, sound, and reliability.
Choose the S55 car for competition or high power goals.

[mecheng77]

To add to what others have said, the N55 for daily as it’s much much better on gas

[///393]

Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

Choose the S55 car for a dedicated track build where you’re planning on AP Racing brakes and seats or just easy access to 500+ whp assuming you’re comfortable with the stock crank hub or ready to spend for the upgrade.

Fixed

None of this is simple.

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by wilson kop

Fixed

None of this is simple.

I just meant that BMW upgraded several things on the M2C to make it a better competition car. What a person really need to compete depends on what level they're competing. Still, the M2C should, overall, fare better in any given competition setting because it has better cooling, brakes that fade less, and more power available with just a tune.

[swampfox94]

Same same but different - how to sum up all the f87s

[///393]

Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

I just meant that BMW upgraded several things on the M2C to make it a better competition car. What a person really need to compete depends on what level they're competing. Still, the M2C should, overall, fare better in any given competition setting because it has better cooling, brakes that fade less, and more power available with just a tune.

I hear ya. The S55 has better cooling and oiling. But that’s not necessarily material in real life and you’re just wrong on this.

The OG is 150lb lighter so stock for stock the power bump is nearly meaningless. When you start talking about modifying them, the OG is actually easier to run as a dual purpose car. Stock seats take harnesses, pads are easier to swap and you can bolt on 18s with fat ass 200tw tires in more compounds without buying $5500 APs.

Everyone has said for years on here GET THE M2C IF YOU TRACK but I simply disagree having run a modified OG on track for years now and suspect the vast majority aren’t saying that because of personal experience.

I avoid events in June/July, but not only is it hotter than the car likes then it’s hotter than I like. People that just quickly type “M2C for track”, are generally not people that track their M2 heavily in my experience they’ve just read it on forums or are racing BMW specs in their head.

[GoneIn4Secs]

Originally Posted by wilson kop

I can share my slide deck on the topic for anyone interested

Thatd be interesting

[Inquisitor]

Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

It 100% depends on personal preference and goals for the car.

Choose the N55 car for price, sound, and reliability.
Choose the S55 car for competition or high power goals.

Are you saying s55 is less reliable than n55?

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by wilson kop

I hear ya. The S55 has better cooling and oiling. But that’s not necessarily material in real life and you’re just wrong on this.

The OG is 150lb lighter so stock for stock the power bump is nearly meaningless. When you start talking about modifying them, the OG is actually easier to run as a dual purpose car. Stock seats take harnesses, pads are easier to swap and you can bolt on 18s with fat ass 200tw tires in more compounds without buying $5500 APs.

Everyone has said for years on here GET THE M2C IF YOU TRACK but I simply disagree having run a modified OG on track for years now and suspect the vast majority aren’t saying that because of personal experience.

I avoid events in June/July, but not only is it hotter than the car likes then it’s hotter than I like. People that just quickly type “M2C for track”, are generally not people that track their M2 heavily in my experience they’ve just read it on forums or are racing BMW specs in their head.

I disagree.

Originally Posted by Inquisitor

Are you saying s55 is less reliable than n55?

Without a crank hub fix, yes.

[///393]

Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

I disagree.

And you don’t track either version regularly so frankly your opinion on the matter is worthless.

If someone wants to know about which one is best to take pretty pictures of by all means weigh in.

[ShortSides]

I just think the N55 OG sound teamed with the 437s are a better finished product and for less capital. I have an OG so I'm biased, but not so much because I was in the same situation when I ultimately purchased the OG over the S55 back in 2021.

[jefe2000]

Originally Posted by mecheng77

To add to what others have said, the N55 for daily as it’s much much better on gas

Oh! I wasn’t aware. What’s the difference in fuel efficiency between the two motors?

[mecheng77]

Originally Posted by jefe2000

Oh! I wasn’t aware. What’s the difference in fuel efficiency between the two motors?

Check out www.fuel economy.gov

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by wilson kop

And you don’t track either version regularly so frankly your opinion on the matter is worthless.

If someone wants to know about which one is best to take pretty pictures of by all means weigh in.

What's worthless is your rude attitude.

That'll be my last response to you.

/ignore

[m2ss]

We have a 2018 LCI (wife's) and a 2020 M2C (mine) both with Dinan exhausts.

We switch back and forth quite a bit and love them both.

With the upgraded exhausts (sound being subjective) we both agree the M2C seems to be louder and the LCI a more refined/pleasing sound but better than stock in both cases.

We'll be tuning the LCI this summer and see...

[jefe2000]

Originally Posted by mecheng77

Check out www.fuel economy.gov

Ah, I haven’t used this website before. Thanks for the recommendation.

Looks like a pretty small difference between the N55-powered M2 and the S55-powered M2C. The former’s a lighter car, so it’s hard to say how much is down to the engine itself, I suppose.