[CoffeeLife]

Anyone have experience running the CS Wing or have technical info regarding it?

I'm deciding between the CS Racing Wing or the APR GT-250 wing.

Thanks!

[OG Shark]

Originally Posted by CoffeeLife

Anyone have experience running the CS Wing or have technical info regarding it?

I'm deciding between the CS Racing Wing or the APR GT-250 wing.

Thanks!

Hard to find info on the BMW wings - been down that same path a couple of times with their stuff. I can't imagine it being as effective as the GT250 can potentially be depending on how it is mounted though. I'm actually going to be running the GT250 in a couple of weeks with some custom mounts designed to be used with the motorsport trunk.

[Suds]

OG, what front splitter will be combined with the rear wing?

Originally Posted by OG Shark

Hard to find info on the BMW wings - been down that same path a couple of times with their stuff. I can't imagine it being as effective as the GT250 can potentially be depending on how it is mounted though. I'm actually going to be running the GT250 in a couple of weeks with some custom mounts designed to be used with the motorsport trunk.

[OG Shark]

Originally Posted by Suds

OG, what front splitter will be combined with the rear wing?

Diverged Concepts upper combined with our track spec lower that is a quick release piece. This way we have the pretty on the street and can still run functional aero that is easy on/off

[FaRKle!]

Originally Posted by OG Shark

Diverged Concepts upper combined with our track spec lower that is a quick release piece. This way we have the pretty on the street and can still run functional aero that is easy on/off

If you end up having to angle your lower splitter down away from the leading edge of the upper splitter to get an optimal angle like I did, you can use some D-profile weather stripping to seal the gap. I was surprised how much debris was getting in between my upper and lower splitter.

[///393]

Originally Posted by OG Shark

Diverged Concepts upper combined with our track spec lower that is a quick release piece. This way we have the pretty on the street and can still run functional aero that is easy on/off

Aw hell, I want to see this.

[CoffeeLife]

Originally Posted by OG Shark

Hard to find info on the BMW wings - been down that same path a couple of times with their stuff. I can't imagine it being as effective as the GT250 can potentially be depending on how it is mounted though. I'm actually going to be running the GT250 in a couple of weeks with some custom mounts designed to be used with the motorsport trunk.

Thanks for the input. Prob the route I will go as well and also include that Diverged Concepts front splitter. I wonder if I can mod the lower splitter to mount on my lightweight lip..

[OG Shark]

Originally Posted by FaRKle!

If you end up having to angle your lower splitter down away from the leading edge of the upper splitter to get an optimal angle like I did, you can use some D-profile weather stripping to seal the gap. I was surprised how much debris was getting in between my upper and lower splitter.

I just so happen to have a ton of that exact size in the shop Use that same stuff when we move to poly windows on the race cars to help keep rain out a bit. I have been going back & forth on using a small dam or trying to fill the gap. Both have their positives - just trying to decide which one of the positives is more positive.

Originally Posted by wilson kop

Aw hell, I want to see this.

This platform needs aero so bad - I can't wait to finally be able to run it!

Originally Posted by CoffeeLife

Thanks for the input. Prob the route I will go as well and also include that Diverged Concepts front splitter. I wonder if I can mod the lower splitter to mount on my lightweight lip..

Really impressed with the Diverged Concepts front lip if you are leaning that direction. FaRKle! did a great write up on it and that is what got me leaning that way as well. The flat bottom is perfect to mount up a lower portion too (the lightweight should be the same though if I recall?). I would have no qualms about running the lower portion with it on the track. Personally I am looking for a bit more df than what that will provide to also be able to balance out more wing in the rear when I prefer to run it. Also quickly on/off is a boon.

[MooMooM2]

I also want to see this quick on off lower splitter and whatever aero you got cooking for the m2. I agree that there should be more options but above all I would love to see stuff that actually has been tested. I assume (and maybe incorrectly) that the team schirmer stuff maybe tested? I see a lot of it being run on the nurgburg ring, everytime I watch a video of the nbr and see an m2 always has the schirmer front lip and extention and then their wing.

Also curious why not run something like the APR spliter that mounts to the chassis? maybe because too much for street use?

I need to get me a diverge lip, I don't love that it points up a bit though (also don't love that the lightweight does the same thing) but it does look great and price is great

[OG Shark]

Originally Posted by MooMooM2

I also want to see this quick on off lower splitter and whatever aero you got cooking for the m2. I agree that there should be more options but above all I would love to see stuff that actually has been tested. I assume (and maybe incorrectly) that the team schirmer stuff maybe tested? I see a lot of it being run on the nurgburg ring, everytime I watch a video of the nbr and see an m2 always has the schirmer front lip and extention and then their wing.

Also curious why not run something like the APR spliter that mounts to the chassis? maybe because too much for street use?

I need to get me a diverge lip, I don't love that it points up a bit though (also don't love that the lightweight does the same thing) but it does look great and price is great

We actually worked with Yeti Racecraft to come up with our splitter design using CFD analysis. It has been balanced to pair well with our wing of choice. Also it will be chassis mounted but in a manner that is easy on/off so can go easy from street to track and back. Otherwise a splitter that actually is effective on the track will get destroyed on the street too easy.

[ae03440]

Originally Posted by OG Shark

We actually worked with Yeti Racecraft to come up with our splitter design using CFD analysis. It has been balanced to pair well with our wing of choice. Also it will be chassis mounted but in a manner that is easy on/off so can go easy from street to track and back. Otherwise a splitter that actually is effective on the track will get destroyed on the street too easy.

Will this be produced and available for purchase? I just recently installed the Diverged Concepts upper spoiler and would love an option for the lower lip for track duty. Thx in advance.

[MooMooM2]

Originally Posted by OG Shark

We actually worked with Yeti Racecraft to come up with our splitter design using CFD analysis. It has been balanced to pair well with our wing of choice. Also it will be chassis mounted but in a manner that is easy on/off so can go easy from street to track and back. Otherwise a splitter that actually is effective on the track will get destroyed on the street too easy.

I love everything about this. What wing is your wing of choice may I ask?

[OG Shark]

Originally Posted by ae03440

Will this be produced and available for purchase? I just recently installed the Diverged Concepts upper spoiler and would love an option for the lower lip for track duty. Thx in advance.

Definitely working towards this

Originally Posted by MooMooM2

I love everything about this. What wing is your wing of choice may I ask?

So I have two - the APR GT250 and the AJ Hartman Fulcrum 14. Wanted to have a couple of options to go with the mounts we produce. Between the two the AJH piece is a monster - should be noticeably more efficient though. But I want to see how well it will do without reinforcement and we are going to be able to test that out pretty quick on the back straight at cota. Shouldn't have to run as much aoa as the with the APR to be able to balance it out - so I see a lot of plus side there. But it is a very big wing - and I think there is a lot of upside for the APR here in a smaller form factor. Will lose some of the efficiency but for some the positives will outweigh that. So hoping to have some good data for the two after June. Valid reasons to go with both & hopefully that can help in the process.

[Hawkdriver]

Can't wait to see more in the way of front splitter development. I currently use the CS racing rear wing and can tell that it really settles the rear down on high speed sweepers and such.

[Sungillest]

Originally Posted by OG Shark

Definitely working towards this



So I have two - the APR GT250 and the AJ Hartman Fulcrum 14. Wanted to have a couple of options to go with the mounts we produce. Between the two the AJH piece is a monster - should be noticeably more efficient though. But I want to see how well it will do without reinforcement and we are going to be able to test that out pretty quick on the back straight at cota. Shouldn't have to run as much aoa as the with the APR to be able to balance it out - so I see a lot of plus side there. But it is a very big wing - and I think there is a lot of upside for the APR here in a smaller form factor. Will lose some of the efficiency but for some the positives will outweigh that. So hoping to have some good data for the two after June. Valid reasons to go with both & hopefully that can help in the process.

Please let us know if the wing set up is available to purchase!

[OG Shark]

Originally Posted by Sungillest

Please let us know if the wing set up is available to purchase!

Tried a few different ways but we still couldn't completely eliminate some deflection in the trunk with a removable mount that left the trunk in an aesthetically pleasing condition with the wing assembly off. Basically had to make the mount too large and the aftermath of the trunk looked like crap. With a smaller mount that we could conceal the footprint better but we would get a very slight deflection that we never could fully eliminate. Could barely tell it was there but any wasn't acceptable. The testing was out to 165 on the backstretch at COTA and I'm honestly not sure I would be comfortable with trunk mounting any wing that produces decent downforce at those speeds.

We have gone with a completely different mount setup on our M2C build & working to make a less intrusive version for production. This does require a new trunk though which I was hoping to avoid to keep costs down. The trunk is carbon fiber though so now also getting some weight savings. Still all a work in progress.

[GasBurnlife(landapanda)]

Originally Posted by OG Shark

Diverged Concepts upper combined with our track spec lower that is a quick release piece. This way we have the pretty on the street and can still run functional aero that is easy on/off

OG Shark can you send a link to the M2 parts you make? Thanks.

[OG Shark]

Originally Posted by GasBurnlife(landapanda)

OG Shark can you send a link to the M2 parts you make? Thanks.

Right now the only things bespoke we have for the M2 are our Nitron kits. We do make half cages and almost finished with the closeout kit for them. Have slowed a bit on offering those though as we have had a very fabrication intensive project going on the last couple of months that took precedence but getting ready to fire back up on them. We are a small shop still and looking for another fabricator to handle more production based stuff like that so we can offer them consistently (instead of pushing them and then saying there is a 3-4 month wait - hate doing that). Enjoy the custom stuff much more than production but it can really be a time suck. Aero kits are also a work in progress as we had to go back to the drawing board on the wing. Few other things on the list to get to but still a ways out as we admittedly have not been able to move quickly on some of this stuff with other priorities getting in the way

[paulina]

Originally Posted by OG Shark

Right now the only things bespoke we have for the M2 are our Nitron kits. We do make half cages and almost finished with the closeout kit for them. Have slowed a bit on offering those though as we have had a very fabrication intensive project going on the last couple of months that took precedence but getting ready to fire back up on them. We are a small shop still and looking for another fabricator to handle more production based stuff like that so we can offer them consistently (instead of pushing them and then saying there is a 3-4 month wait - hate doing that). Enjoy the custom stuff much more than production but it can really be a time suck. Aero kits are also a work in progress as we had to go back to the drawing board on the wing. Few other things on the list to get to but still a ways out as we admittedly have not been able to move quickly on some of this stuff with other priorities getting in the way

What's the price for the Nitron kits

[OG Shark]

Originally Posted by paulina

What's the price for the Nitron kits

paulina Pricing and specs are listed here - OGSM/Inertial Laboratory Custom Nitron Coilover Kits. Would have to check with Nitron on the shipping as my rates are to the US.

[Juice ///M]

I have a splitter form the M2 CS BMW CCA team made by Corey Deeds coming out soon! I will have group buy for that coming up!

[Juice ///M]

See attached setup in the works, first 10 are spoken for. Next 10 will get a group buy.