[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by bimmer4life24

IMO, I don't see it being priced above the M3/4 unless it is a GTS (it's not and I believe BMW will create a GTS in the future). Main differences will be the engine and aerodynamics.

Don't get me wrong here, I believe the car will have many other performance OPTIONS that can take the M2 CS over the M3/4 price tag. As OP stated, ceramic breaks and other performance additions may be OPTIONS. Engine and aerodynamics will be standard (S55, splitter, spoiler, CF roof, etc.) These are all STANDARD on current M3/4's. So how can an M2 CS cost more than the M3/4?? (which does not have a detuned S55, is bigger, and more luxurious).

Again, all just my opinion and thought process.

I get what you're saying - but I am also guessing the M3/4 will have had some price increases by 2018 as well too, right? Perhaps the CS will only eclipse the base M3/4 price by a small amount...

Maybe I am off with my 70K estimate - but I can't see BMW switching out the engine and providing a lot of the "extras" that people wanted originally with the M2 and NOT charging a significant premium for the CS.

And if the car is to be made in a small, specific number - the price premium (whatever it is, and especially if more than the M3/4) will be better justified.

[Verdi]

M4 GTS is more expensive than the M6 too you know.

[termigni]

Originally Posted by Luminous

It's all about economy of scale. How did you arrive at the assumption that the S55 would be "at least 10k more?"

Also what makes you think they would put a B58 in the base M2? I don't see them having different engines within the same model car, I mean look at the GTS, it's just an S55 with a water injection kit.

If the base M2 gets the S55 I predict an MSRP of 59-60k. As someone else pointed out earlier, there is no way this car will be more expensive than the larger, more powerful and more luxurious M3/4.

I'm saying BMW will offer 2 versions of M2. M2 & M2CS.

For B58 M2 "base", they have no choice but to change the engine to B58 to meet the emission requirement for the coming year. price will probably stay similar to current M2 because they are continuing to use the mass produced engine just like the current M2.

For S55 M2, IMO, BMW will call it M2 CS and charge close to M3 price because this will be a special model, may be limited. Hence "$10k more". I'm expecting more alcantara, better breaks, more aero kits.. etc etc. Like the Porsche Cayman GT4 vs 911, it can step into M3 price but won't really effect the sales of M3.

just my predictions... we'll have to see what BMW does..

[slashrawr]

Originally Posted by Mdecisive

Does anyone want to have a guess at how much that'll cost in AUD?

I'm guessing A$130kish...right in the middle of the M2 and M3. Also puts it in line with the circa A$20k increase other manufacturers have placed on their "special" models in the same price bracket.

[Luminous]

Originally Posted by termigni

I'm saying BMW will offer 2 versions of M2. M2 & M2CS.

For B58 M2 "base", they have no choice but to change the engine to B58 to meet the emission requirement for the coming year. price will probably stay similar to current M2 because they are continuing to use the mass produced engine just like the current M2.

For S55 M2, IMO, BMW will call it M2 CS and charge close to M3 price because this will be a special model, may be limited. Hence "$10k more". I'm expecting more alcantara, better breaks, more aero kits.. etc etc. Like the Porsche Cayman GT4 vs 911, it can step into M3 price but won't really effect the sales of M3.

just my predictions... we'll have to see what BMW does..

Interesting theory but I don't see them putting the same B58 in the M2 as the M240. As I said earlier, the M2 needs to be faster than the 240 and the B58 doesn't have much tuning room left on the stock fuel system. Look at BMS' tuning progress with the B58: for anything above map 1 you need a meth kit to supplement stock fueling.

I think all M2s will get the S55 and the CS version will be equivalent to a "competition package" M2. But alas we can only wait and see.

[PackPride85]

It's hilarious all the people putting down the "base" M2 when its been called the best M car ever and regarded as one of BMWs best cars of all time. Remember, the CS version will be more track oriented so yeah for probably 10k more you're getting 400hp and the S55, but you're probably going to get a harsher ride and less DD amenities.

[Verdi]

Originally Posted by PackPride85

It's hilarious all the people putting down the "base" M2 when its been called the best M car ever and regarded as one of BMWs best cars of all time. Remember, the CS version will be more track oriented so yeah for probably 10k more you're getting 400hp and the S55, but you're probably going to get a harsher ride and less DD amenities.

There are two rules on forums like this.

1. There's no such things as "enough power".
2. Cars that tries to kill you are more popular than balanced and predictable cars.

So yes. With a tuned S55 you're looking at 500+ hp and the car will be very nervous and will most likely try to kill you at some point. Great huh!

[e92ben]

Originally Posted by Reid

Have you driven a M2?

Sorry, but I find it hard to believe that someone who has actually driven the car could make this comment.

The current M2 is a great car and far more fun to drive than a M4. The announcement of a M2 CS does not make the base M2 any less fun to drive. This fun to drive aspect is at the core of what truly makes a M car, IMHO.

It's easy to get caught up in having the latest and greatest, but let's be realistic most forum posters never actually buy anything. The average user just wants to post and say that they would buy ______ if it weren't for ______ or ______.

There are people on this forum who honestly think we believe that they would have purchased a M2 if not for the mirrors.

Hahaha funny on the mirrors. The mirrors don't bother me at all the M2 looks the business. I've driven an M2 on a few occasions, and driven it hard. Ive also driven a m235i on multiple occasions. The difference between the two 2s wasn't overwhelming enough for me. On the street the m235i is just a tick under the m2 imo. On the track it might be a different story. I just think the s55 would make it all the more special. I think it's what missing to make it the perfect M car. I'm a huge fan of the s55 in the m3/4.


I get what you mean about 90% of the forum users and not actually buying anything new. Especially with ridiculous excuses like you said. I buy cars, I'm looking for my next M. The m2 didn't do it for me. Felt like a m235i with a lsd and better brakes... again that's on the street.

[gtr]

Originally Posted by PackPride85

It's hilarious all the people putting down the "base" M2 when its been called the best M car ever and regarded as one of BMWs best cars of all time. Remember, the CS version will be more track oriented so yeah for probably 10k more you're getting 400hp and the S55, but you're probably going to get a harsher ride and less DD amenities.

I think you're confusing cs and csl? Less amenities without weight loss is hard to believe.

I think it's the same car with tuned suspension and driving dynamics with s55. Wider hips and tires is we are lucky.

[Bimmed Out]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

Breathe in ....breathe out......

Push a M2, pull ya keys out

[Bimmed Out]

Originally Posted by Gatte

This has got to have a manual transmission option. It will be so cruel if they take that away. Very very cruel indeed.

^This^ is the critical issue.

[Bimmed Out]

Originally Posted by F87LUV

I'll probably give my dad my M2 and finally move onto Porsche like I should have done instead of pining over a car that will be outdated in a year.

Like the same thing doesn't happen with Porsche? You are in for a rude awakening. Just ask the guys who are still waiting for their 991.2 GT3 RS deliveries, while reading the news about the non-RS 991.2 GT3 just around the corner.

[Nine Lives]

Originally Posted by e92ben

The difference between the two 2s wasn't overwhelming enough for me. On the street the m235i is just a tick under the m2 imo.

On the track it might be a different story. I just think the s55 would make it all the more special.

Got to agree and more so with the m240i.Lots of competition from other manufacturers in the pipeline too.

One of the reasons why BMW deem it necessary to bring out the CS no doubt.

[ChrisK]

Originally Posted by PackPride85

It's hilarious all the people putting down the "base" M2 when its been called the best M car ever and regarded as one of BMWs best cars of all time. Remember, the CS version will be more track oriented so yeah for probably 10k more you're getting 400hp and the S55, but you're probably going to get a harsher ride and less DD amenities.

+1

Thank you!

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Luminous

Considering all the reasons I've mentioned above, it seems very likely the S55 will be introduced for all M2s starting MY2018 along with the LCI. In my opinion the emissions issue seems like the most convincing reason.

There's a typo in your MY reference + strike out "all".

[Robban]

I personally think the increase in price will be major. The M2 is hyped as it is today and all directions point that this will be the case for the CS. If the production number will be limited will in addition make impact. It's a business and they will squeeze out what they can to maximise their profit.

[yousefnjr]

Originally Posted by PackPride85

It's hilarious all the people putting down the "base" M2 when its been called the best M car ever and regarded as one of BMWs best cars of all time. Remember, the CS version will be more track oriented so yeah for probably 10k more you're getting 400hp and the S55, but you're probably going to get a harsher ride and less DD amenities.

I've read most of this 14-page circus, and nobody's said anything negative about the M2. The closest it's come to that are non-M2 owners saying "this is what we were waiting for" which is a completely reasonable thing to say. Anybody paying attention to these threads over the last few months knew this was coming.

More hilarious to me are the assertions that this will be $90k, stripped interior, and have too much power.

[BentZero]

You guys give me your M2. I'm in my "lowly" M235i lol.

[Encinitas CA M2+M5 Owner]

Here is my take

The price always goes up... from 2016 the costs of the car went up 300 on paint and exec package and over 2 k in increased costs to get the same warranty in 2016.

In 2018 look for possibly more increased costs of the warranty across the board as well as overall price inceases.

The simple fact is that the 2016 BMW M2 will be the lowest sticker price ever on this car, same with 2017....

Cars always get better over the time and thank god for that...

We all agree for the price and the car under 60k this is the Best Buy out there... simply it is the funniest car BMW has built since the 1M.

I hope the special edition comes out.. it will make a great car even better... but it's gonna cost $$$$, let them pile on the options and raise the price and take out the back seat.... but BMW. Please leave the base price under 60k with or without S55 which is gonna happen I predict in 2019 base models.

In the meantime ENJOY your M 2... drive the heck out of it and enjoy a home run

[Norcalmav23]

"The minor updates" line in the LCI info release means N55 to me. No reason to change to the B58 for what should be the last year of production. Trusted engines in the M cars.

[Gatte]

Relax with the price speculation. BMW would try to compete with other manufacturers more than within their own lineup. For example, they would not mind someone buying an M2 instead of the M3 as much as they would someone buying a C45 AMG or RS3 instead of the M2.

First and foremost, BMW will need to compete with those models and maybe even the GT4 from a price perspective provided of course the performance matches. You need to look at what the competitors are pricing their models at before we start with the M3/M4 blah blah or 130K blah blah...... blah.

If the M2 CS when it releases cannot destroy the newer GT4 which is also expected at that time, it will not be priced over the GT4. As a matter of fact, it would be priced at least 5K-10K under that price because it's not a Porsche. The M2 CS is getting 400 HP because the new Audi and Merc models in the same market space are getting updated as well. The pricing will also need to compete with those models if the base M2 is not able to compete with the newer Audi and Merc offerings.

[MightyMouseTech]

Damn, the "best M car ever made" is about to get more betterer!