[M-Pilot]

Originally Posted by bimmer4life24

$2k?? Where did you get that number from??? M2 base is currently $51,700. Subtract that from $56,900 and you get +$5,200. I still think it will be DCT only so $59,900.

And $15k markup??? I can't tell if YOU'RE joking. No way the M2 CS would cost more than a M3/4. M3/4 has more power, size, and luxury even after the CS improvements. Totally different class and target market.

This isn't a GTS/CSL, buddy. Think logically.

M5 and M6 has more power, size, and luxury compared to M4 GTS but M4 GTS costs significantly more than a base M5 or M6. I know M2 CS is not a CSL or a GTS but who knows if there is going to be an M2 CSL or GTS. M2 CS might even be a limited production car like M4 GTS. I definitely don't think M2 CS will cost less than $65K-70K.

[F87LUV]

Originally Posted by stubbet

Why not the Akrapovic mirrors? They look awesome.

Haven't seen those???

[F87LUV]

Originally Posted by JStachmo

I definitely could be wrong but that was my first impression. Why else would they have priced M2 residuals lower than the 235/240?

I said that months ago. Everyone was wondering why the residuals were terrible. It's definitely because BMW knew the base M2 was losing that much value by then.

[AndrewC1989]

Originally Posted by bimmer4life24

$2k?? Where did you get that number from??? M2 base is currently $51,700. Subtract that from $56,900 and you get +$5,200. I still think it will be DCT only so $59,900.

And $15k markup??? I can't tell if YOU'RE joking. No way the M2 CS would cost more than a M3/4. M3/4 has more power, size, and luxury even after the CS improvements. Totally different class and target market.

This isn't a GTS/CSL, buddy. Think logically.

There's where i got that number. You think a CS will cost $2000 more then a fully option'd M2.

It totally WILL be treated like a GTS/CSL. People can barley find regular M2's let alone one with new body work and an S55. This will be a super rare and expensive car. You're acting like it's going to be some M sport package or something minor. It's not looking that way at all.

[stubbet]

Originally Posted by Reid

Have you driven a M2?

Sorry, but I find it hard to believe that someone who has actually driven the car could make this comment.

The current M2 is a great car and far more fun to drive than a M4. The announcement of a M2 CS does not make the base M2 any less fun to drive. This fun to drive aspect is at the core of what truly makes a M car, IMHO.

It's easy to get caught up in having the latest and greatest, but let's be realistic most forum posters never actually buy anything. The average user just wants to post and say that they would buy ______ if it weren't for ______ or ______.

There are people on this forum who honestly think we believe that they would have purchased a M2 if not for the mirrors.

I totally agree. People complain about the engine, the mirrors, the seats and god knows what. BMW has made a great car with an attractive price. If a car is available with numerous of options - it will cost more. And that is not what M2 is about - it is about the drive. I personally wanted some upgrades, so I went with Akrapovic exhaust and diffuser, and I will and some more, both performance and for looks. But I just love it, but there will always be people complaining and "knowing what is what".

[ClothSeats]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Standalone. Because your "most likely" is totally out of place here.

Most likely coming to some M2 variant or another. Any word on a stick shift being offered?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by ClothSeats

Any word on a stick shift being offered?

There are signs.

[ClothSeats]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

There are signs.

[bimmer4life24]

Originally Posted by comacow02

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There's where i got that number. You think a CS will cost $2000 more then a fully option'd M2.

It totally WILL be treated like a GTS/CSL. People can barley find regular M2's let alone one with new body work and an S55. This will be a super rare and expensive car. You're acting like it's going to be some M sport package or something minor. It's not looking that way at all.

Buddy...I said "BASE"

This guy is out here comparing a loaded M2 and checking every box available with something I stated as "Base."

M2 CS will have options also bro. C'mon, this is BMW we're talking about.

Don't compare a loaded M2 MSRP with a base CS MSRP. I'll say it again...think logically.

Oh ya, and you clearly didn't fully read my post...I said +$995 D&H. So your number of $2k difference is still wrong. Using your logic it's $3k difference.

PS: I love how you didn't leave it on Alpine White $0.

[Gatte]

Originally Posted by bimmer4life24

$2k?? Where did you get that number from??? M2 base is currently $51,700. Subtract that from $56,900 and you get +$5,200. I still think it will be DCT only so $59,900.

And $15k markup??? I can't tell if YOU'RE joking. No way the M2 CS would cost more than a M3/4. M3/4 has more power, size, and luxury even after the CS improvements. Totally different class and target market.

This isn't a GTS/CSL, buddy. Think logically.

This makes sense.

Some greedy dealerships will mark them up a lot but the car itself should not be priced over the M4 unless it is technologically or radically different from a regular M2.

[AndrewC1989]

Originally Posted by bimmer4life24

Buddy...I said "BASE"

This guy is out here comparing a loaded M2 and checking every box available with something I stated as "Base."

M2 CS will have options also bro. C'mon, this is BMW we're talking about.

Don't compare a loaded M2 MSRP with a base CS MSRP. I'll say it again...think logically.

Oh ya, and you clearly didn't fully read my post...I said +$995 D&H. So your number of $2k difference is still wrong. Using your logic it's $3k difference.

You can stop trying to win this argument now. It won't be as cheap as you're hoping it will be. End of story.

[bimmer4life24]

Originally Posted by comacow02

You can stop trying to win this argument now. It won't be as cheap as you're hoping it will be. End of story.

I think I just won it

[Gatte]

Originally Posted by comacow02

There's where i got that number. You think a CS will cost $2000 more then a fully option'd M2.

It totally WILL be treated like a GTS/CSL. People can barley find regular M2's let alone one with new body work and an S55. This will be a super rare and expensive car. You're acting like it's going to be some M sport package or something minor. It's not looking that way at all.

Whether people can find it or not is not the same as whether it is limited or not. When the M4 first released, it was selling for 20K over MSRP much like the M2 is right now. The M4 can now be had for invoice+ prices. It should be the same with the regular M2 if you are willing to wait a little.

What makes the GTS special is the fact that it has water/meth injection, half a roll cage, 5K paint job, Ceramic brakes, CF hood, racing seats etc. etc. That along with the fact that it is limited to 700 (some say 800) units worldwide is what is responsible for the price. The M2 CS is not expected to be all of the above and hence will not justify the pricing that you suggest.

[Gatte]

Originally Posted by cntzl

M5 and M6 has more power, size, and luxury compared to M4 GTS but M4 GTS costs significantly more than a base M5 or M6. I know M2 CS is not a CSL or a GTS but who knows if there is going to be an M2 CSL or GTS. M2 CS might even be a limited production car like M4 GTS. I definitely don't think M2 CS will cost less than $65K-70K.

Around 65k is the more realistic price.

[GimmeanM]

Originally Posted by F87LUV

I said that months ago. Everyone was wondering why the residuals were terrible. It's definitely because BMW knew the base M2 was losing that much value by then.

Another factor is demand at time of sale. BMWFS has no reason to throw programs (money in the form of higher residuals and lower money factors) at cars they know are going to sell well either due to higher demand or lower supply. In the case of the M2 it's both.

They move that money around to help slower turning cars move off the lot.

I would bet it has more to do with this and less to do with expected ACV at lease end.

There is no downside to them giving a lower residual on the higher demand cars. As far as the manufacturer is concerned they only sell it once. There is however large risk to having a residual that is too high; at lease end you walk away and they own it for x over market ACV.

Low M2 residuals are paying for artificially high i3 residuals everywhere!

[STooK]

Good news but it'll most likely be:

A. Too expensive
B. Hard to find
C. A & B

Maybe I will be able to pick up a CPO base M2 for a decent price though. Only time will tell.

[AndrewC1989]

Originally Posted by Gatte

Around 65k is the more realistic price.

bimmer4life24

Assuming that's correct then you aren't as far off as i thought, but like i said, it's around $15,000 more then a standard M2.

[M2 CSL]

Originally Posted by Franzino

Why would a current M2 owner be f*cked? I don't see it...? There is coming a newer, more expensive M2 CS...yes if it would be the same price or cheaper then the current "normal" M2 then we (current owners) are a little f*cked in the *ss by BMW... But this will not be the case! It will be more expensive and there will always be a newer car, whatever car you buy....

I agree! My post was sarcastic.

[swilliams]

M2 CS "Lawn Mower" Edition -- When 365HP just isn't enough for your 10 mile commute to work in traffic.

[VCP]

Originally Posted by swilliams

M2 CS "Lawn Mower" Edition -- When 365HP just isn't enough for your 10 mile commute to work in traffic.

lol

[Dee Pee]

Originally Posted by GimmeanM

planning on keeping the 1M?

That's tough. It'll be a 7 year old car and my DD with probably 42k miles on it.
I might opt to sell the S54 M Roadster at that point.

Originally Posted by Gatte

Get it in writing.

You betcha!

[Gatte]

Originally Posted by stubbet

It is not confirmed yet, and I can assure you that no dealers anywhere will take deposits.

Dunno how to put this to you but you're wrong. Very wrong.

P.S: If you wait for official confirmation, you will be just as late as you are wrong.