[SW19]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Yes. Frankly, I have no idea why someone would even think of that possibility. Have you not noticed how many years N54 had been in production before 1M got it, or the same for N55 and M2?

Thanks,just wanted confirmation with all of the MY18 engine speculation that has been talked about in various threads on the forum.

[Franzino]

Originally Posted by e92ben

There you go BMW! A real M2 finally.

Why would a M2CS be a real M2....is a e46 M3 not a real M model, because there is also a e46 M3 CSL?

[bimmer4life24]

Originally Posted by zenmaster

Fixed it for you.

I'm actually expecting DCT only

[Franzino]

Originally Posted by M2 CSL

Should I be worried that I want a CS but then the CSL will come out and I'll be fucked at some point in the future just like the M2 owners just got super fucked?

It's up to you whether or not to be concerned, but I will say that a lot of people were on here claiming that the S55 would be in the new "base/lci" M2 and that doesn't seem to be the case.

The CS will be more expensive and is a slightly different animal. I don't think it will matter all that much.

Why would a current M2 owner be f*cked? I don't see it...? There is coming a newer, more expensive M2 CS...yes if it would be the same price or cheaper then the current "normal" M2 then we (current owners) are a little f*cked in the *ss by BMW... But this will not be the case! It will be more expensive and there will always be a newer car, whatever car you buy....

[Gatte]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

M2 is MY 2016 in calendar year 2016
M3 LCI is MY 2016
M4 GTS is MY 2016 - in calendar year 2016
M4 LCI is MY 2018
M2 LCI is MY2018, coming in calendar year 2017.
M2 CS is MY2019, coming in calendar year 2018.
M3 F80 End of production - 10/18
M2 GTS is MY 2020 ?? coming in 2019 ? abject speculation
F82 M4 End of Production - 06/20

using this timeline...this gives BMW a boost with an M2 GTS type vehicle three years after the M4 GTS and just around the same time that the F82 M4 ends production...

Why ??. Why do you have to do this ??

[zenmaster]

Originally Posted by Tag

Is there still a chance that the M2 LCI may get a tuned B58 or is that rumor all but dead?

What rumor are you referring to?

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Gatte

Why ??. Why do you have to do this ??

just sayin....

[GimmeanM]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

M2 is MY 2016 in calendar year 2016
M3 LCI is MY 2016
M4 GTS is MY 2016 - in calendar year 2016
M4 LCI is MY 2018
M2 LCI is MY2018, coming in calendar year 2017.
M2 CS is MY2019, coming in calendar year 2018.
M3 F80 End of production - 10/18
M2 GTS is MY 2020 ?? coming in 2019 ? abject speculation
F82 M4 End of Production - 06/20

using this timeline...this gives BMW a boost with an M2 GTS type vehicle three years after the M4 GTS and just around the same time that the F82 M4 ends production...

If what we're discussing here is not the limited production variant and a 2020 M2 GTS is...then I'll wait.

Any info to back this up, or are you just guessing?

[Gatte]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

just sayin....

This time, I hope with all my heart that you're dead wrong after 'M3 F80 End of production - 10/18'

[AndrewC1989]

Originally Posted by bimmer4life24

I'm predicting $56,900 base.

If it's DCT only, $59,900 base.

*not including D&H (so +$995)

i can't tell if you're joking or not. You think the CS will cost $2000 more then the current car? that's not even close. there's gonna be a $15,000 mark up minimum.

[filet.M2c]

So glad I got on my dealer's list a few months ago. He sent me their bulletin board today showing I'm the #1 spot ...Now just hoping for a 6MT and a reasonable price.

[bjcarls]

Originally Posted by Franzino

Why would a M2CS be a real M2....is a e46 M3 not a real M model, because there is also a e46 M3 CSL?

I think what he's getting at is the s55 is an M only motor. The M2 is a variant of the common but great n55. He wants his M's to be pure.

[AndrewC1989]

Originally Posted by synergist

Now just hoping for a 6MT and a reasonable price.

Woah woah woah, lets not get crazy now

[atxsk8r]

Originally Posted by synergist

Now just hoping for a 6MT and a reasonable price.

This car already exists, it's the current M2

[Nkc]

Been on the No 1 spot at my local dealership on the morning they allowed a deposit to be taken for what I thought would be a M2 CSL. If i do get it, I'll drive the piss out of it and put a deposit in for the upcoming/more hardcore version and trade the cs in. If I didn't have the 1M, I'd do that starting with the M2. I have yet to try an M2 but I highly doubt that it will sway me away from my 1M. Just like my favorite son, the 1M will always have a spot in the garage

Still feel they should keep the variants down. An M should be the best they have to offer for for public consumption and have only one limited special (track focused) hardcore edition above the M. Charge a crap load more and test out new technologies. M sounds a lot like the S-line from Audi nowadays.

And please please please don't embarrass yourself like the M4 gts did. The GTS is like the millennial rich entitled kid that went to the best schools but can't perform in the real world. A preppy kid that got an earring and barb wire arm tats to look hard.

[bimmer4life24]

Originally Posted by comacow02

i can't tell if you're joking or not. You think the CS will cost $2000 more then the current car? that's not even close. there's gonna be a $15,000 mark up minimum.

$2k?? Where did you get that number from??? M2 base is currently $51,700. Subtract that from $56,900 and you get +$5,200. I still think it will be DCT only so $59,900.

And $15k markup??? I can't tell if YOU'RE joking. No way the M2 CS would cost more than a M3/4. M3/4 has more power, size, and luxury even after the CS improvements. Totally different class and target market.

This isn't a GTS/CSL, buddy. Think logically.

[3M TAPE]

So hard to decide, civic M2 or the wait

[JStachmo]

You guys (and girls) are missing the easiest way to determine if there's going to be a badder version of the M2 CS - follow the money.

Remember how the residual values on the M2 leases were a lot lower than most other cars in the lineup? BMW financial had to know that by the time those leases were up, their value was going to be lower than normal because they would no longer be at the top of the 2 series food chain.

We obviously won't know the residuals until the CS is released, but look at the numbers the accountants assign to the car. BMW isn't in the business of losing money.

[stubbet]

Originally Posted by Killramos

Anyone get word from a dealer on if they are taking deposits for these yet?

It is not confirmed yet, and I can assure you that no dealers anywhere will take deposits.

[zenmaster]

Originally Posted by JStachmo

Remember how the residual values on the M2 leases were a lot lower than most other cars in the lineup? BMW financial had to know that by the time those leases were up, their value was going to be lower than normal because they would no longer be at the top of the 2 series food chain.

Doubtful that was the reason. Lease residuals are actually rising recently as more understanding of the market. So no, they didn't have "to know their value would be lower". Sometimes they get it wrong and have residuals too high, in fact. BMW tends to play it conservative with new models.

[JStachmo]

Originally Posted by zenmaster

Doubtful that was the reason. Lease residuals are actually rising recently as more understanding of the market. So no, they didn't have "to know their value would be lower". Sometimes they get it wrong and have residuals too high, in fact. BMW tends to play it conservative with new models.

I definitely could be wrong but that was my first impression. Why else would they have priced M2 residuals lower than the 235/240?

[stubbet]

Originally Posted by F87LUV

I'm getting these. Closest I'm getting to M mirrors.

Why not the Akrapovic mirrors? They look awesome.