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View Poll Results: Do you always use the clutch when shifting with 6MT?
I use the clutch every shift 66 91.67%
Sometime I just slip it in... 6 8.33%
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      12-21-2017, 10:47 PM   #1
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To clutch or not to clutch?

As suggested, do you always use the clutch when shifting gears or do you just slip it in?
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I drain the transmission first and then jam it in dry.
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      12-22-2017, 09:47 AM   #4
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I drain the transmission first and then jam it in dry.
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Why would you shift without the clutch?
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      12-22-2017, 10:41 AM   #6
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It is kind of nice to learn to shift and get going w/o a clutch / when your clutch cable or pedal break
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      12-22-2017, 10:51 AM   #8
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Sure, clutch-less all the time...
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It depends if it is my car or someone's.
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Why would you shift without the clutch?
I like to rev match and shift without it, especially on downshifts. German transmissions can be a bit clunky. Japanese transmissions are much easier to shift without the clutch I have found.

Try it some time.
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Sure, clutch-less all the time...
Only need to use the clutch when starting from a dead stop or coming to a stop. Clutch-less for both up shifts and down shifts.

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      12-22-2017, 05:42 PM   #12
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Think about it, my old truck needs a double clutch. That does not speed things up i can assure you.
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Cruising in my Subaru today, I used the clutch about 4 times - at red lights. At this rate, the car will need a new clutch in 2077.

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Cruising in my Subaru today, I used the clutch about 4 times - at red lights. At this rate, the car will need a new clutch in 2077.

Or synchros in 2019.......
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Or synchros in 2019.......
You actually do not load the syncros at all if you are rev matching. The key is to slip it in like a gentleman, not just ram it home!!
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Surprising results. I would have expected more people to go clutch-less from time to time.
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Get the clutch bumper stops. I also only depress halfway until the engagement point which makes it a bit smoother.
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I am officially in the minority here I guess.

Happy clutching!
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if its not a sequential, clutch-less driving is a bit needless.. one way or another you have to match the rev of the engine and transmission everytime.. up-shifts can work but downshift ll take more time actually like that..
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if its not a sequential, clutch-less driving is a bit needless.. one way or another you have to match the rev of the engine and transmission everytime.. up-shifts can work but downshift ll take more time actually like that..
For track use, that is correct. Albeit, the most stress that you put on a synchro is when you are forcing quick gear changes while using the clutch.

For getting around town, I am not that worried about the little lag that is caused by waiting for a 12:1 compression engine to slow down on an upshift (2-3). Downshift (3-2) requires a blip to match revs. If you are good at it (more of a challenge with drive by wire as the computer can get in the way), it is seamless and rewarding. This is one of the reasons I like standards. It takes more skill to drive them well.

It is also a great skill to have if you enduro race. Track we run has ~11 shifts per lap and 75 laps in a 2 hour stint for 825 shifts per stint. Over the 24 hours, the transmission will be shifted ~9900 times. If we do not rev match and use some finesse, even though we have synchros, you will upset the car as well as wear out the transmission and clutch.

Row row row your boat!!
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You actually do not load the syncros at all if you are rev matching. The key is to slip it in like a gentleman, not just ram it home!!
Where is the fun in that?
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