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      03-17-2017, 11:38 AM   #23
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I was referring to the tire noise. The PSs and Contis tend to be pretty loud on the highway. I can hear the engine just fine
Your PM box is full so I emailed you my info for your extra set of door seals. Thanks
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      03-18-2017, 02:23 PM   #24
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Just installed mine last night and the drive in this morning was a lot better. It substantially reduces road and tire noise coming from the front wheels. Install was quick but take a bit of patience (especially if you're a perfectionist). Well worth the money in my opinion. I actually ended up having an extra pair of anyone wants them. My buddy ended up giving up his f87 allocation and got a f80 m3 last week so I now have an extra set on my hands. Paid 33 for it plus shipping. Let me know if anyone wants it for 40 shipped within the states. Shipping should be fairly quick. Pm me for details.
Romeo, your PM box is full. If you still are looking to get rid of that extra set, PM me?
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If it's that efficient and if it reduces so easily tyre noise, My question is why on earth didn't BMW put these seals in the F87 or 235i (and 240i?) ?
Can't be be for cost or weight cutting !!
Is it better without it in their opinion ? For which reason ? Are we missing something ?
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      04-27-2017, 06:28 AM   #26
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Just got a quote from my dealer for these, $55 AUD each side ex Germany lol.
did you end up finding a place that would ship to Australia?

thanks ,LP
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Anyone been able to answer the heat question? I think this would be a worthwhile mod for tire noise but wonder about heat
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      04-27-2017, 11:53 PM   #28
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did you end up finding a place that would ship to Australia?

thanks ,LP
I haven't really pursued it since the quote from BMW but ECS Tuning was an option, only problem with them was shipping costs were crazy high and was only worthwhile if you were buying other items at the same time or multiple sets.
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      12-18-2017, 11:24 AM   #29
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Hate to resurrect an old tread. But used to race bikes and because of this have hearing damage. So I want performance without too much drama. Love to drive fast but want to be able to hear the person next to me. So.

Have any of you added back the door insulation that is not meant to be in the F87 doors?
I find that doors often transfer road noise from the exterior especially if there is little or no insulation..
Thanks!
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      02-18-2018, 11:52 PM   #30
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Where did you order the door seals for $15 each?
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      02-27-2018, 09:44 PM   #31
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Hate to resurrect an old tread. But used to race bikes and because of this have hearing damage. So I want performance without too much drama. Love to drive fast but want to be able to hear the person next to me. So.

Have any of you added back the door insulation that is not meant to be in the F87 doors?
I find that doors often transfer road noise from the exterior especially if there is little or no insulation..
Thanks!
I added the so-called fender-to-body seals on the driver and passenger sides. My ears are a bit less sharp then they use to be due to the very loud concerts I attended in the 1970's and 80's. That said, I did still notice a reduction in tire noise. I added the seals in an effort to improve the environment for the Harman-Kardon stereo, which they did.

I ordered the fender-to-body seals from ECS tuning:

Fender To Body Seal - Left: ECS Part # ES#3016343 $16.42
Fender To Body Seal - Right: ECS Part # ES#3016344 $16.88

If you order $50 worth of merchandise, then shipping is included.
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      03-01-2018, 04:53 AM   #32
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      03-15-2018, 11:21 AM   #33
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Having reviewed this thread over on the 2-series forum, I decided to try some supplemental door seals in the hope they would reduce cabin noise. These are not an official fit for the M2, but my dealer's parts department found them quickly under 228i using the parts numbers. Total cost was $50, the arrived in about a week, and they took about 30 minutes to install on both sides (20 minutes for the first, and 10 for the second). They dry-fit so you don't need any messy adhesive or to worry about screwing anything up. Fitment is perfect, there's no change in this part of cars relative to the the other 2-series.

Given the low cost and ease of install, the only question is...is it worth it? I think it is. These seals fit in a gap between the cabin and the front fender. Without the seals, there's nothing other than the curvature of the door keeping air and front wheel noise from entering the cabin:


You can actually see light coming from the gap between the hood and the headlight!! The entire area behind the fender is open to the door cavity and there is no seal.

Here's a post-install picture with approximately the same angle on the same side of the car:


Note that, when the door is shut, the new seal sits just beneath the seal behind the mirror and goes all the way to the bottom of the door where the under-side seal begins. This completes the seal around the door.

I did a simple circuit of driving with some city and some ~85 MPH highway before and after the install. The most dramatic improvement is in reduction of front tire noise. There's some wind noise reduction and negligible engine compartment noise dampening. I recommend the modification if you have defeated ASD (otherwise you'd never hear the tire and wind noises over the ridiculous harmonic generator).

A good install write-up is available here: http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showp...5&postcount=80. Instead of a ruler, I used a bone tool. Once you get the hang of it, though, your fingers are 90% of the tools you need. The trick is getting the vertical placement right, then it's just a matter of cramming the seal into the gap.
Do you have a part number for these? I was only saying to the Missus the other day how loud the tire noise was on this car compared to my S3!
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Do you have a part number for these? I was only saying to the Missus the other day how loud the tire noise was on this car compared to my S3!
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showp...02&postcount=6
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      03-21-2018, 04:05 PM   #35
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Fitted them myself, great and cheap purchase.... MJ
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I installed the door seals on my M2. It was a complete waste of time since this mod had zero impact on anything.
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I installed the door seals on my M2. It was a complete waste of time since this mod had zero impact on anything.
Cool story bro.

Clearly you don't have an ear for it.
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      04-07-2018, 12:23 PM   #38
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I installed the door seals on my M2. It was a complete waste of time since this mod had zero impact on anything.
Agreed - suspect of anyone claiming these make a large difference - anything I noticed I couldn’t decide if it was a placebo affect or what - I took them off after a week
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I installed the door seals on my M2. It was a complete waste of time since this mod had zero impact on anything.
Cool story bro.

Clearly you don't have an ear for it.
See the post above. As I said - complete waste of time.
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You guys must be deaf or listen to music the whole time you're driving.

Lowered interior levels significantly for my car. Now if I could figure out how to quiet the rear tires down too.
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      04-08-2018, 07:33 PM   #41
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For those that say this makes no difference. Do you guys still run ASD?
For those interested I've achieved a 4 db drop in interior noise by restoring insulation in the rear. Check out the sound insulation thread.
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For those that say this makes no difference. Do you guys still run ASD?
For those interested I've achieved a 4 db drop in interior noise by restoring insulation in the rear. Check out the sound insulation thread.
Link? Interested in the rear insulation...
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      04-10-2018, 08:51 PM   #43
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Search up Sound Deadening on the main discussion area.
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I can tell you that just adding this made the around town noise level drop by 25-40% IMO. I'll report on the highway noise tomorrow.
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