[RedCarrot]

Originally Posted by BMWCali

Hey guys, been spending a few days with the M2 as I think I'm going to buy one. Wondering if this is an issue with just the M2 I'm driving or the DCT in all M2s... when you shift into reverse and hit the throttle, there's a huge lag before it actually revs up and moves. Same if you're in reverse and switch to 1st, you have to wait like a full second before pressing the throttle or it just doesn't register/rev/go anywhere.

Is this delay normal? Pretty annoying actually, especially if making a 3-point turn.

This only happens at startup for me

[RedCarrot]

Originally Posted by Gatte

I have a fix for that.

Get the manual.

Oh great, instead of waiting a second - the same amount of time to get a notchy MT into gear on cold startup - I have to press and hold a button for 5 seconds to defeat auto-blip

BMW manual is garbage in the sports car realm, bad enough I opt’ed for a non-manual in a sports car for the first time in 18 years

God forbids if someone could ask a technical question about DCT without some I-am-holier-than-thou snob telling them to get a manual instead

[Gatte]

Originally Posted by RedCarrot

Oh great, instead of waiting a second - the same amount of time to get a notchy MT into gear on cold startup - I have to press and hold a button for 5 seconds to defeat auto-blip

BMW manual is garbage in the sports car realm, bad enough I opt’ed for a non-manual in a sports car for the first time in 18 years

God forbids if someone could ask a technical question about DCT without some I-am-holier-than-thou snob telling them to get a manual instead

Was just kidding. I have owned an automatic transmission car in the past as well.

No need to get your panties in a bunch.

[Mstigator]

Originally Posted by pissclams

By every measure, an inferior product.

HAHAHAHA
Thank you for this hilarious comment!

[dmboone25]

Back to the OP's question - I think this is a common delay in DCTs, generally speaking. I have a small garage, so I have to maneuver the F80 around quite a bit to get it where it needs to be. There have been times when shifting from reverse back to drive that the transmission goes into neutral, or the engine just dies. That's happened ~5 times since I got the car.

So I would say that the slight delay is just a characteristic of the transmission, or at least mine seems to do similar things.

[MZWIE]

I don't think you would want to slam in 1st after reverse. Same as in a manual. I always wait for the car to totally stop in reverse prior to engaging 1st.

[pissclams]

Originally Posted by Mstigator

HAHAHAHA
Thank you for this hilarious comment!

meas·ure (meZHər)/verb -a standard unit used to express the size, amount, or degree of something.

Shifting Efficiency/0-60: DCT wins
Fuel Efficiency: DCT wins

Now, you manual transmission dinosaurs can pop into every DCT thread on this board with your tiny little shifting knobs, like you've managed to do, and espouse the greatness of the manual's engagement, yada yada yada with your visceral experience BS. But the truth is that the DCT beats the MT in every measurable category and I get it, sometimes the truth hurts. Sorry, grab a band aid and stay out of DCT threads.

[Mstigator]

Originally Posted by pissclams

meas·ure (meZHər)/verb -a standard unit used to express the size, amount, or degree of something.

Shifting Efficiency/0-60: DCT wins
Fuel Efficiency: DCT wins

Now, you manual transmission dinosaurs can pop into every DCT thread on this board with your tiny little shifting knobs, like you've managed to do, and espouse the greatness of the manual's engagement, yada yada yada with your visceral experience BS. But the truth is that the DCT beats the MT in every measurable category and I get it, sometimes the truth hurts. Sorry, grab a band aid and stay out of DCT threads.

Oh god I think I'm gonna loose it... hahaha... now this is fine entertainment.



On topic: Normal DCT character just get used to it.

[Gatte]

Originally Posted by pissclams

meas·ure (meZHər)/verb -a standard unit used to express the size, amount, or degree of something.

Shifting Efficiency/0-60: DCT wins
Fuel Efficiency: DCT wins

Now, you manual transmission dinosaurs can pop into every DCT thread on this board with your tiny little shifting knobs, like you've managed to do, and espouse the greatness of the manual's engagement, yada yada yada with your visceral experience BS. But the truth is that the DCT beats the MT in every measurable category and I get it, sometimes the truth hurts. Sorry, grab a band aid and stay out of DCT threads.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by pissclams

meas·ure (meZHər)/verb -a standard unit used to express the size, amount, or degree of something.

Shifting Efficiency/0-60: DCT wins
Fuel Efficiency: DCT wins

Now, you manual transmission dinosaurs can pop into every DCT thread on this board with your tiny little shifting knobs, like you've managed to do, and espouse the greatness of the manual's engagement, yada yada yada with your visceral experience BS. But the truth is that the DCT beats the MT in every measurable category and I get it, sometimes the truth hurts. Sorry, grab a band aid and stay out of DCT threads.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by pissclams

measÂÃÂÂ ‚·ure (meZHər)/verb -a standard unit used to express the size, amount, or degree of something.

Shifting Efficiency/0-60: DCT wins
Fuel Efficiency: DCT wins

Now, you manual transmission dinosaurs can pop into every DCT thread on this board with your tiny little shifting knobs, like you've managed to do, and espouse the greatness of the manual's engagement, yada yada yada with your visceral experience BS. But the truth is that the DCT beats the MT in every measurable category and I get it, sometimes the truth hurts. Sorry, grab a band aid and stay out of DCT threads.

..

By every measure, a microwave oven is better than a range!

Cooking efficiency.. 0-160 degrees : Microwave Wins!!

Energy efficiency ! BTU - Microwave Wins!

And I don't want to hear anyone tell me anything about espousing the greatness of taste or flavor... cuz they can't be measured !! Sometimes the truth hurts..

[ZPrime]

Seriously, the way some of you wankers act over this, it's like someone insulted the size of your genitals...

They both have their merits. This is now my second 6mt in a row and sometimes I regret not going for DCT, especially since the car is doing half the work for me anyway.

OTOH, I did get bored as hell sometimes when I had a dual-clutch car and my left leg often wanted something to do. But I also never had to worry about clutch wear or a blown shift, and I could teach my left foot to brake at HPDEs.



They both have their place. If I could have both, I honestly would (and I'd switch back and forth depending on my mood).

[Advevo]

Originally Posted by pissclams

meas·ure (meZHər)/verb -a standard unit used to express the size, amount, or degree of something.

Shifting Efficiency/0-60: DCT wins
Fuel Efficiency: DCT wins

Now, you manual transmission dinosaurs can pop into every DCT thread on this board with your tiny little shifting knobs, like you've managed to do, and espouse the greatness of the manual's engagement, yada yada yada with your visceral experience BS. But the truth is that the DCT beats the MT in every measurable category and I get it, sometimes the truth hurts. Sorry, grab a band aid and stay out of DCT threads.

DCT is 25kg heavier

Extra cooling hoses and radiator.

Just More to break down!

On the weight reduction the manual wins!

[gdwmendel]

I have noticed that lag going into revers even after letting it warm up for a little while in park. I figured this was just normal. I then had a very disturbing incident while pulling out into traffic before it was completely warmed up. I had it in Sport D mode and pulled out into traffic. First gear was fine and when it went to shift into second gear the engine just reved and the transmission didn't grab the gear which is really worrying. I dumped the gas and it caught but this could be really bad if it happens at the wrong time. I talked to the service department and they didn't seem that worried. They said the software update "might fix it" but were unable to provide any reassurance beyond "maybe". Anyone else have any experiences like this?

[JustChris]

Normal for DCT, my M4 also did this

[amancuso]

I haven't noticed any lag, but then again I haven't been in a situation where I needed a lightning fast R-1 or 1-R change. It takes the same amount of time for me to K turn in my DCT M2 as it does in my 6MT M5.