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Just because you don't want to believe it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Nobody believed the performante time. Then the gt2 RS time. Could the M2 go faster with a driver with bigger balls? It's possible |
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02-03-2019, 01:07 PM | #90 |
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How many times does it have to be said that was not a stock Type R that ran that time? It had a stripped interior, different tires, roll cage, and that's just what we know. It just goes to show how effective this misdirection can be for a manufacturer when they trumpet Nurburgring times. Lots of people actually think the car you buy at the dealer is the same car that ran that time which is false.
Here's what the cars do stock at the C&D Lightning lap. Type R does do very well but it's 2 seconds slower around that track than a manual transmission M2. https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...ning-lap-2018/ https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...-2016-feature/ Last edited by heavyD^2; 02-03-2019 at 01:16 PM.. |
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02-03-2019, 05:16 PM | #92 | |
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It's a modified car as well, JFC. Why would we ignore the entire body of evidence for the ONE outlier? Your comprehension skills are lacking. No one is disputing it's a great car, or that it's in the same league. |
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02-04-2019, 10:26 AM | #93 |
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02-04-2019, 06:20 PM | #94 | |
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And I wasn't aware that it's modified |
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02-05-2019, 01:41 AM | #95 | |
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Anyway, I said nothing to the effect of that I didn't believe they ran that video taped lap. I don't believe they could do it again with a stock car. I said the time hasn't been reproduced. Which it hasn't. Sport Auto didn't even come close. |
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02-05-2019, 08:09 AM | #97 |
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I wouldn't worry as lots of people were under the impression it was stock as has been said Honda has been incredibly misleading with this whole thing. That doesn't take away the fact that it's an amazing FWD car and on certain tracks may be as fast as an M2. I just wish that all manufacturers would use stock cars for their Nurburgring times.
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02-05-2019, 12:55 PM | #98 |
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Here's the article from C&D regarding the Honda Type R that was used.
Please keep in mind, every manufacturer when posting time on the Nurb will have techs that adjust the car to conditions, bring new tires etc. Some will also bring multiple cars and drivers to achieve their time. Also, track conditions for that day & time will alter times. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a1...-record-video/ |
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Not sure if this was posted on here before, but an interesting time test comparison from a dead stop, between the RS3, Type R, A45 and M2.
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Yeah, the CTR is a great car and punches above it's weight. If the Civic had the same amount of power it might be faster on several tracks. Shame that BMW's chassis and suspension tuning are not up to Honda levels in the F8x series cars. Both great cars. I doubt too many buyers will cross shop though, given the image implications.
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