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What about adaptive suspension?
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So either BMW is misleading us or you might be conflating torque with hp. As for AWD, don't know too many M2 buyers/owners that want to ruin the cars characteristics with that.
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It's well-known that the B series engine in the 240 is more underrated from the factory than the M2's N55. Their actual numbers are right on top of one another. Not a dig on the M2, but a fact that the B58 is very underrated by BMW. Perhaps to protect the M2, as well as the V8 models positioned above it in some lines.
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Good god, take CarPlay off both. It's junk.
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What about it? It's a stupid idea.
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I think it can be a good thing, but I didn't see the benefit in the 235 that I had for roughly 18 months. To me, there was no discernible difference for the way the car felt or handled in any of the settings - it was simply too squishy and killed the experience for me.
The fact that there's "less" tuning potential with the M2 is not by accident - if you have the underpinnings of an M3 in the M2 body/wheelbase, and you can get to the same power levels of the M3 easily, then you've got less incentives to go with the bigger car. Similar to the way that Porsche keeps the 911 as king over all, this is a neutering exercise by BMW.
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The OP lists a 2017 M2 in his description so I don't think he's looking for validation. But we should let him speak for himself.
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You can argue that the M in M2 is also just marketing, and maybe you're correct to do so, but the nomenclature BMW is using is NUTS at times. When you look at the two cars, there is clearly a visual distinction. One is an M car and the other is NOT. So drop the M.....go back to the "is" label. i.e. 240is. That used to be the slightly sportier model. Mike
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By the way I was ripped a new one by a member of this board because I made mention of the car he I assumed he was driving (from the same side list) and he went nuts on me. (You know who you are!) I made the evil implication that he did not have an M2 (when his description said he was driving a 135 if I recall correctly) LOL. To the OP, Get the M2, you will not be disappointed and if you already have one, great choice! But again, anyone would be happy with either car, they are both great vehicles. And what's with the hate over Apple Play? I'd love full iPhone mirroring on the display, that would rock. Mike
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Correct. I already own an M2. I voted with my $$$. I wanted to post the best apples to apples comparison. I expect the "total cost of ownership" is going to be significantly less for the M2 than the M240i. The depreciation curve for the M2 is much better than the M2351/M240i. But, where the secondhand market settles for the M2 will depend on production numbers.
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We're fortunate to have both MY16 M2 and MY17 M240i in our household. My son has the M240i, of course, with adaptive suspension and sunroof.The only other difference is that my M2 is DCT.
Having driven both, we both agree the M2 is definitely much more hard-edged with true M diff, brakes, suspension, and the beautiful sounding exhaust. By comparison, the M240 is so much softer around town, and actually more ideal for that purpose alone. This weekend, we're both headed to our first autocross with our respective babies. We'll be swapping cars throughout the day which should give us a real seat-of-the-pants comparison on the power delivery, handling and braking on the same closed course. I will try to post our impressions afterward. |
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After reading the last 5 comments, I'm going to stick by my five reason someone might chose a :M240i over a M2. It's just tht those reasons don't apply to us. btw-I had a week 25 allocation I rolled over to be first on the list for MY18. We'll see how that turns out... So I understand reason Reason 1 - availability - as well as anyone. We're collectively a patient crew. Cheers to you all!
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Why do you have both ?
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