[geogerf]

Originally Posted by zenmaster

Yes, over 300 lbs lighter. All the weights can be googled.

i heard about google..

what i meant was some people would prefer the car to be longer and usually by adding length, you add weight, so that scenario you mentioned - adding length to gain a 300 lbs savings would be a win win. it wouldn't be a "sacrifice" to me

[stren]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

I promise you that if you put both the M2 and Civic Type R on a rack and look under the interior panels, the underbody, and under the hood, you'd see the robustness in the BMW engineering compared to a factory modified Civic. I'm not knocking the CTR at all and i am in an amazement of its performance (not looks); however, it's not built to the standards of BMW. I work on my own cars and had a 2012 WRX before my M235 (my first German car ever at 42l). The difference in engineering is boggling. Not trying to be a BMW nutswinger, but it's clear to me why the 2 series is a bit hefty for it's size. My M235, no moonroof, 6mt, and full weight is 3,335.

FWD vs RWD is quite a weight saving in a front engined car. For example - compare the weight of Golf GTI (FWD) vs Golf R (AWD) and the AWD is 300 lbs heavier, RWD should be lighter than AWD I would imagine but still plenty of weight transferring the power to the back of the car. Then add on the extra weight of 1 more litre of displacement and two more cylinders.

Of course it's not just total weight but the location of that weight, is it low and is it centered. BMW do a better job of keeping weight balanced and low than many other companies which I believe is why many say that the M2 hides it's weight well.

[zenmaster]

Originally Posted by geogerf

i heard about google..

what i meant was some people would prefer the car to be longer and usually by adding length, you add weight, so that scenario you mentioned - adding length to gain a 300 lbs savings would be a win win. it wouldn't be a "sacrifice" to me

Wouldn't be a "sacrifice" to me either, hence the quotes. But I wouldn't prefer the car to be longer, nor have a longer wheelbase.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by Obioban

Unlikely since they listed as "curb weight" rather than "weight". Also, I'm not sure how they would have optioned a car to be that heavy stock.

"BMW claims the manual M2 weighs 3450 pounds, while our scales showed a 3415-pound number; "


http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ll-test-review

[Obioban]

Originally Posted by akkando

"BMW claims the manual M2 weighs 3450 pounds, while our scales showed a 3415-pound number; "


http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ll-test-review

Yes, that's why I posted a link to BMW's site in that era (using the internet wayback machine) showing the 3415 lb curb weight.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by Obioban

Yes, that's why I posted a link to BMW's site in that era (using the internet wayback machine) showing the 3415 lb curb weight.

Oh I see.

[c1pher]

Originally Posted by gsrbri

The M2, at 176.2 inches long, is pretty compact. Take a look at the list below:

BMW F82 M4 184.5 in
2017 Honda Civic Type R 179.4 in
E46 M3 176.8 in
E30 M3 171.1 in

That’s one of the things I like about the M2. Also:
E82 135i 172.2 in
C7 Stingray 176.9 in
Audi S3 175.8 in
Golf R VII 168.4 in

[Aronis]

Originally Posted by ZPrime

Same here... If I could do the -50-80lbs driver mod, that would be awesome, but I have 0 willpower.

LMAO! Made my week. Stress eating, that's my excuse....

Mike

[ZPrime]

Originally Posted by Aronis

LMAO! Made my week. Stress eating, that's my excuse....

Mike

Sitting in a chair most of the time for work (IT guy) and not being a fan of other physical activity (I hate sweating, and being big I sweat a lot), and also enjoying good food; all of those things contribute to my problem. :P

[Aronis]

Originally Posted by ZPrime

Sitting in a chair most of the time for work (IT guy) and not being a fan of other physical activity (I hate sweating, and being big I sweat a lot), and also enjoying good food; all of those things contribute to my problem. :P

I'm on my feet all day, constant go go go, but still can't loose weight. We graze all day in the OR on carbs. I can't get the administration to put some God Dam protein in the OR lounge. LOL.

Mike