[stulio2181]

I've got 6k miles on my beloved. Now that I understand the limits, or better said near limitless, nature of the vehicle, I'm tapping into DSC off. Perhaps I'm getting ballsy, but the dynamics of the car seem more balanced when off. Could be total psycho-somatic, but the nannies were starting to piss me off. Especially around tight corners when I know the precisely engineered mechanics would keep me in check and my keen skills attained form Project Cars and Forza on my pc (lol). Keep in mind, I had a C5 ZO6 in a former life, which was uncontrollable with the nannies off and driving like an asshole, I blame the insane instantaneous NA torque on the vette, not me of course.

Just curious if anyone feels the same, or the aforementioned delusional fantasy.

[AndrewC1989]

DCT = Dual Clutch Transmission

I think what you meant to say was DTC (Dynamic Traction Control) or DSC (Dynamic Stability Control)

[stulio2181]

Originally Posted by andrewc89

DCT = Dual Clutch Transmission

I think what you meant to say was DTC (Dynamic Traction Control) or DSC (Dynamic Stability Control)

It was a typo. My bad

[stulio2181]

Originally Posted by andrewc89

DCT = Dual Clutch Transmission

I think what you meant to say was DTC (Dynamic Traction Control) or DSC (Dynamic Stability Control)

Originally Posted by andrewc89

DCT = Dual Clutch Transmission

I think what you meant to say was DTC (Dynamic Traction Control) or DSC (Dynamic Stability Control)

Besides correcting me, do you have an opinion on what you know what the topic is about? I'm interested.

[Poochie]

DSC completely off, you should only use it off road; in emergency maneuvers with it off, if you don't know how to counter-steer or panic, you could spin out the back end. A lot of fun off road in the snow, scary in the public streets, in front of cops...

[AndrewC1989]

Originally Posted by stulio2181

Besides correcting me, do you have an opinion on what you know what the topic is about? I'm interested.

Haha sorry, yes I do

I don't like driving in the semi traction mode due to the horrible throttle response and the crazy drone you get and I'm not ballsy enough to drive with everything off. I find that Sport Plus with Euro MDM coded in is the perfect setting. The sound is amazing and the throttle response is great so that's how I drive 99% of the time.

[stulio2181]

Originally Posted by andrewc89

Haha sorry, yes I do

I don't like driving in the semi traction mode due to the horrible throttle response and the crazy drone you get and I'm not ballsy enough to drive with everything off. I find that Sport Plus with Euro MDM coded in is the perfect setting. The sound is amazing, the throttle That's how I drive 99% of the time.

No worries. I hear ya. I just found I could control the spin with dsc off somewhat. But then again I'm not playing a video game. The nannies had just pissed me off a bit today. Only reason for posting and curious. Throttle response is for sure better at sport+

[AndrewC1989]

Originally Posted by stulio2181

The nannies had just pissed me off a bit today

You should try coding in Euro MDM. It allows for more wheel slip and more of a drift angle when cornering because traction control is less obtrusive.

[stulio2181]

[stulio2181]

Originally Posted by andrewc89

You should try coding in Euro MDM. It allows for more wheel slip and more of a drift angle when cornering because traction control is less obtrusive.

Looking into it now. Thank you!!!

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by andrewc89

You should try coding in Euro MDM. It allows for more wheel slip and more of a drift angle when cornering because traction control is less obtrusive.

Hmm, I haven't heard of that one..

[AndrewC1989]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

Hmm, I haven't heard of that one..

https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1326276

[mtoosexy]

Originally Posted by stulio2181

I've got 6k miles on my beloved. Now that I understand the limits, or better said near limitless, nature of the vehicle, I'm tapping into DSC off. Perhaps I'm getting ballsy, but the dynamics of the car seem more balanced when off. Could be total psycho-somatic, but the nannies were starting to piss me off. Especially around tight corners when I know the precisely engineered mechanics would keep me in check and my keen skills attained form Project Cars and Forza on my pc (lol). Keep in mind, I had a C5 ZO6 in a former life, which was uncontrollable with the nannies off and driving like an asshole, I blame the insane instantaneous NA torque on the vette, not me of course.

Just curious if anyone feels the same, or the aforementioned delusional fantasy.

I agree I will NEVER have my DCT turned on.(6spd) I will also turn off DSC and the other "helpers" Maybe not on day one but shortly there after.
I think you are feeling the back end help you do some of the turning. Its an addictive feeling. Once you get used to it, you will be going through tires quickly. After a while, turns start to call to me "I might be drift-able, come on, try me"

[akkando]

Originally Posted by andrewc89

https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1326276

Wish bimmercode could handle it. Perhaps the author doesn't want the liability.

[ShelJW]

I rented an M2 about a month ago for a day, while waiting for my own, ordered M2 to arrive from Germany.

Took my daughter to the school bus early in the morning (around 6:20am) in the rented (Turo) M2, and, with a three lane street completely empty before me, and the sun just starting to rise, I turned off DSC off, and floored it pretty hard.

Car took off and then fish tailed rather abruptly! My 13 year old was NOT amused... although I kind of laughed. The street was completely empty, I was just sorry that I gave my daughter a scare.

Just be aware of the power these cars have, if you're going to turn off the nannies... the street was completely empty when I accidentally fish tailed the car, but if there had been other cars on the street, or moderately heavy traffic, it could have ended badly!

[Ceeto]

Originally Posted by ShelJW

I rented an M2 about a month ago for a day, while waiting for my own, ordered M2 to arrive from Germany.

Took my daughter to the school bus early in the morning (around 6:20am) in the rented (Turo) M2, and, with a three lane street completely empty before me, and the sun just starting to rise, I turned off DSC off, and floored it pretty hard.

Car took off and then fish tailed rather abruptly! My 13 year old was NOT amused... although I kind of laughed. The street was completely empty, I was just sorry that I gave my daughter a scare.

Just be aware of the power these cars have, if you're going to turn off the nannies... the street was completely empty when I accidentally fish tailed the car, but if there had been other cars on the street, or moderately heavy traffic, it could have ended badly!

I haven’t had that experience yet, but I have yet to try it with Traction all the way off (holding the button for 5 seconds).
And in the rain, I’m still keeping all the nannies on for now....

[ShelJW]

Originally Posted by Ceeto

I haven’t had that experience yet, but I have yet to try it with Traction all the way off (holding the button for 5 seconds).
And in the rain, I’m still keeping all the nannies on for now....

I'm not telling anyone NOT to turn all the nannies, I'm just strongly suggesting that if you're going to turn everything off and accelerate quickly, try it on an empty street first!

It was a blast, but again, I had my young daughter in the car, who's not into cars, and for some reason, she didn't find it as fun as I did My two older kids would have been laughing hysterically!

[Mosely]

I find the nannies to be way too intrusive, even in sport plus. It really hinders the natural rotation of the car at times or cuts power when when the rear skips over small imperfections on the road. I do find myself with DSC off around town very frequently

[M2C_PLUS]

Originally Posted by Mosely

I find the nannies to be way too intrusive, even in sport plus. It really hinders the natural rotation of the car at times or cuts power when when the rear skips over small imperfections on the road. I do find myself with DSC off around town very frequently

This exactly and it is VERY annoying.

[Al1969]

Originally Posted by Mosely

I find the nannies to be way too intrusive, even in sport plus. It really hinders the natural rotation of the car at times or cuts power when when the rear skips over small imperfections on the road. I do find myself with DSC off around town very frequently

Interesting...
While I really felt the differences between comfort and sport modes, but I am not sure about sport + except that it takes the DSC off (EU car), also I tested fuel consumption indicator seems to increase in different modes, also from sport to sport +.
What else do you see as a difference between sport and sport + (I know there is already a lot said, feature tables published and others), I am more interested to get the feedback from a driving point of view. Thanks

[TMR013]

Honestly, would only go TIMYOYO on a skid pad unless you are very experienced. like race car driver experienced. Maybe on a track if I wasn't worried about possible damage and chewing up tires.
Please don't do it on public roads. The rest of us have to use those too.

[matty_f]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

This exactly and it is VERY annoying.

I agree with you both. The nannies are way too intrusive. When tracking I would prefer Sport + to be DSC off, but with rev match.