BMW M2 (F87) will launch in 4 colors, 1 interior, and with 365hp / 343lb-ft (N55)

Blindside_137 · 05-06-2015, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SickFinga

Your source forgot to tell you interior details.
M2 will have only one interior choice. Black leather with blue stitching

Is this true?

It would explain the neutral colors + LBB

ilikebmxbikes · 05-06-2015, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by zipphreak

Obviously you will start to see other competitors put up their unique offering to compete with the the likes of the M2. Obviously the ATS-V is more M3/M4 competitor but at the M2 price point

Cadillac is really not that pretty inside or out, but this thing has a sick twin turbo that's worth test driving for a year

On that note is the Audi RS3 hatch even a real competitor to the M2 ? 367hp/342 ft lb torque, 3350 lb curb weight, 18.9 psi boost, 3.5 seconds ... Would you consider it

$65k MSRP.

Nevermind looking at similar v6 turbo from the likes of Mercedes, the CLA45 AMG is the closet thing out now, but it's a 4 cylinder with a crazy amount of boost. 3494 lbs, 61/39 weight distribution, less balanced the m235

Almost forgot about the 2016 Mercedes C450 AMG Sport. This was obviously the direct attack at other "sports" cars being released in the mid 300hp ranges, 3.0 biturbo v6, 362 hp, 384 torque, 0-60 4.9 seconds, but 3850 curb weight. So it's a bit overweight/underwhelming. Can we say it together Power to weight ratio. Horsepower divided by weight = performance. The higher this percentage, the more i want the car. The AMG Sport line is akin to BMW's M Sport like the M235i, fake badges = marketing, will sell sell sell!

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t-drive-review

I think the M2 should target 375 hp and 400 ft lb torque,if it magically came out around that i would hit it. But it should only be available in one color john deere green with a DCT 8spd, fully adjustable M electronic suspension, and LSD factory for 55k

I agree, the competitors are not really competitors. Judging by the response in this thread alone, it seems the m2's competition is the f8x.

For the number crunchers-
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-new...wer-arms-race/

phoenixbmwlife · 05-06-2015, 04:53 PM

The more I think about this it makes no sense. With the M2 having 43Hp and 13 Tq more than the M235i, why not just wait for the B58 model if it makes it to the M240i. Its rumored to have 354HP. Thats 11HP less than the M2. What is BMW smoking?

bdaddylo · 05-06-2015, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by swagon

The 2 Series is built in Leipzig. This production line is not capable of Individual orders.

Calm your tits.

wow, how did this happen?

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=709069

///Mangler · 05-06-2015, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by synergist

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Originally Posted by s1k0ne

isn't a fully loaded 335i around $55k? Not exact on the price but if that's the case and the M2 starts around $50s, i see a big demand for the M2 as long as you don't need the extra space. better specs, more fun to drive.. thumbs up for me

specs and colors, ehhh everybody can't be happy about anything these days but it's not bad. bmw states lower figures so i'm guessing it's going to be a bit higher and with a piggy back or some mod that people definitely will do, it'll be a damn good car imo.

hey, if ur not happy w/ something, mod it to your liking. if it's the color or specs, then jump into an M4 if it offers it. if they still don't offer the color of ur liking, ur still gonna spend $1.5k or $5k on an individual color down the line so let's stop complaining and see what the final verdict is on the M2

While I agree with you about the ability to tune, I would rather not have to. In a brand new car you will have to worry about removing the piggyback for dealer visits to avoid any warranty claim issues. With this in mind, I would probably still pick up a tune but eh... wish I didn't have to.

Totally agree. shouldn't need a tune to make a car fast or fun...

tuning doesn't make an M car....chassis, suspension, brakes, gearbox, and steering do. Such a misconception by people thinking their 'modded' 335s and 235s are better than an M car....not a chance.

Exactly.

It's all about balance.

Here is the stock S14 running down V8s and S54/S65s on a high horse power track.

I'll take the lower power for more balance every time.

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JasonCSU · 05-06-2015, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bdaddylo

wow, how did this happen?

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=709069

With enough $ anything can happen. I believe that car went to a BMW exec though.

Adem1534 · 05-06-2015, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ilikebmxbikes

I agree, the competitors are not really competitors. Judging by the response in this thread alone, it seems the m2's competition is the f8x.

For the number crunchers-
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-new...wer-arms-race/

Well between BMW fans it's competition is the f8x. Can't forget that this forum generally only contains BMW fans who care enough about the brand to make an account. Of course they'll be comparing to the M3 M4 more than other buyers.

Alumac · 05-06-2015, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bdaddylo

wow, how did this happen?

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=709069

It happened for the last 4 1Ms to roll off of the line. But being setup to accommodate regular individual requests, and doing it to close out a line in style, are very different scenarios.

Leipzig produces the cheapest BMWs. No need to set it up for 5k paint jobs that only M2 buyers would ask for.

jstnstr · 05-06-2015, 05:34 PM

I actually personally know someone with a Dakar Yellow 1M. I wonder how that happened. He's definitely not a BMW Exec (a plastic surgeon). I guess with enough cash...

SCOTT26 · 05-06-2015, 05:36 PM

The last few 1Ms were done at the behest of the end of production for the 1er M Coupe so it was allowed as a one-off.
For regular individual cars the production line has to be stopped and then the car shipped for paint application before being added back to the production line.
The reason why the answer is No. Is because BMW are immensely proud of their efficient production strategy therefore any acceptance of an Individual car would mean that you pay also for the production stoppage, downtime and logistics which is why Leipzig built cars are refused for Individual. It costs up to just below another car.

SCOTT26 · 05-06-2015, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jstnstr

I actually personally know someone with a Dakar Yellow 1M. I wonder how that happened. He's definitely not a BMW Exec (a plastic surgeon). I guess with enough cash...

Its a wrap or custom painted. No US market 1Ms were painted in any other color rather than the three standard colours offered.

Roundown · 05-06-2015, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by synergist

Also, doesn't the M235i have around 330 ft/lbs of torque? An increase of about 10 ft/lbs for an M car seems pretty weak.

35lb with overboost!

If it's light and has proper cooling, that's plenty of power.

Cope · 05-06-2015, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PhoenixWolf

The more I think about this it makes no sense. With the M2 having 43Hp and 13 Tq more than the M235i, why not just wait for the B58 model if it makes it to the M240i. Its rumored to have 354HP. Thats 11HP less than the M2. What is BMW smoking?

Horsepower and torque will definitely be the only differentiating qualities between the two, totally

bdaddylo · 05-06-2015, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alumac

It happened for the last 4 1Ms to roll off of the line. But being setup to accommodate regular individual requests, and doing it to close out a line in style, are very different scenarios.

Leipzig produces the cheapest BMWs. No need to set it up for 5k paint jobs that only M2 buyers would ask for.

Very true, but for anyone to say Leipzig is not capable of individual colors is full of crap. It can happen if you know the right people and have enough money.

SickFinga · 05-06-2015, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Blindside_137

Is this true?

Yes, it is.

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Originally Posted by PhoenixWolf

The more I think about this it makes no sense. With the M2 having 43Hp and 13 Tq more than the M235i, why not just wait for the B58 model if it makes it to the M240i. Its rumored to have 354HP. Thats 11HP less than the M2. What is BMW smoking?

BMW is not smoking anything. People that claim 354hp for M240i are smoking something.

phoenixbmwlife · 05-06-2015, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cope

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Originally Posted by PhoenixWolf

The more I think about this it makes no sense. With the M2 having 43Hp and 13 Tq more than the M235i, why not just wait for the B58 model if it makes it to the M240i. Its rumored to have 354HP. Thats 11HP less than the M2. What is BMW smoking?

Horsepower and torque will definitely be the only differentiating qualities between the two, totally

Obviously it's not the only difference but when it's so close you don't think it's disappointing? 11Hp?

Roundown · 05-06-2015, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ilikebmxbikes

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Originally Posted by zipphreak

Obviously you will start to see other competitors put up their unique offering to compete with the the likes of the M2. Obviously the ATS-V is more M3/M4 competitor but at the M2 price point

Cadillac is really not that pretty inside or out, but this thing has a sick twin turbo that's worth test driving for a year

On that note is the Audi RS3 hatch even a real competitor to the M2 ? 367hp/342 ft lb torque, 3350 lb curb weight, 18.9 psi boost, 3.5 seconds ... Would you consider it

$65k MSRP.

Nevermind looking at similar v6 turbo from the likes of Mercedes, the CLA45 AMG is the closet thing out now, but it's a 4 cylinder with a crazy amount of boost. 3494 lbs, 61/39 weight distribution, less balanced the m235

Almost forgot about the 2016 Mercedes C450 AMG Sport. This was obviously the direct attack at other "sports" cars being released in the mid 300hp ranges, 3.0 biturbo v6, 362 hp, 384 torque, 0-60 4.9 seconds, but 3850 curb weight. So it's a bit overweight/underwhelming. Can we say it together Power to weight ratio. Horsepower divided by weight = performance. The higher this percentage, the more i want the car. The AMG Sport line is akin to BMW's M Sport like the M235i, fake badges = marketing, will sell sell sell!

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t-drive-review

I think the M2 should target 375 hp and 400 ft lb torque,if it magically came out around that i would hit it. But it should only be available in one color john deere green with a DCT 8spd, fully adjustable M electronic suspension, and LSD factory for 55k

I agree, the competitors are not really competitors. Judging by the response in this thread alone, it seems the m2's competition is the f8x.

For the number crunchers-
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-new...wer-arms-race/

Just read this interview- Porsche gets it.

phoenixbmwlife · 05-06-2015, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SickFinga

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Originally Posted by Blindside_137

Is this true?

Yes, it is.

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Originally Posted by PhoenixWolf

The more I think about this it makes no sense. With the M2 having 43Hp and 13 Tq more than the M235i, why not just wait for the B58 model if it makes it to the M240i. Its rumored to have 354HP. Thats 11HP less than the M2. What is BMW smoking?

BMW is not smoking anything. People that claim 354hp for M240i are smoking something.

Whatever it will ultimately be, it will be more than the 322hp in the M235i. Less than 40hP difference? Really how come you're not upset about this?

chaddy74 · 05-06-2015, 05:46 PM

Rather flat about this announcement !

ynguldyn · 05-06-2015, 05:51 PM

Dackel, high five!

Artemis · 05-06-2015, 05:53 PM

So, it looks like BMW is keeping the vivid colors for the M2 GTS/CSL ?

technik330 · 05-06-2015, 05:54 PM

Is there any sound word with regards to the internals of the N55, upgrades specifically?

Forged pistons would be a great addition, but I've rarely seen a car Mfg, short of AMG do this - most everything is cast.

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