[Euromeister]

While the M2 outgoing N55 engine was a fantastic engine, the new B58 is nothing short of brilliance and will make its new M240i replacement an absolute gem. The M235i was already so good that it threatened the M2’s relevance, so this new BMW M240i should really make decisions tough for potential M2 buyers.
Will people get frustrated with the wait and by a M240i ?

[SliChillax]

Who in their right mind would consider an M240i as a more desirable car than an M2? I mean just look at an M2, makes a normal 2 series look like a children's toy. Even if the M240i made more power than an M2 I wouldn't care as it wouldn't come close to it regarding handling and overall driver dynamics.

[Euromeister]

Sorry i mean B58 !

[Twix]

The M240i won't have the same suspension, that's where the M2 shines. If people bought the M2 for acceleration and straight line speed, they bought the wrong car. A camaro or a mustang would be better, more tunability for drag racing than either BMW cars.

The M240i will be good, but will it be good enough? I think people would have a hard time paying M2 money for a car that isn't the M2. Current prices in Canada prove the M2 to be excellent value in comparison to other BMW cars.

I drove the M235i before I took delivery of my car, I can say for sure the M2 feels far more special than the mundane M235i

[Glounk]

Am buying the it because it's a M, even if the M240i maybe has more power or something else than the M2, i'll go for the Mama2.

[ric124]

I went on BMWUSA.com and built a comparable M240i and it was $1700 less and I still won't have a LSD, M suspension with added chassis stiffening, lighter wheels, better cooling.

M2 will also handle better on the track and cooler.

If you don't plan on going to the track then yes the M240i is something you should consider.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by SliChillax

Who in their right mind would consider an M240i as a more desirable car than an M2? I mean just look at an M2, makes a normal 2 series look like a children's toy. Even if the M240i made more power than an M2 I wouldn't care as it wouldn't come close to it regarding handling and overall driver dynamics.

If the two cars are both available on dealer lots, the only way a person that a person would not select an M2 would be the following

1- do not like stiffer suspension/firm ride
2- do not like M2 color options
3- do not like M2 " look at me " styling


Other than those things there really isn't a lot of compelling reason to buy an M240 vs an M2. However, when you combine a 4-9 month wait vs a product that's available today, you'll find that a lot of people will go for the instant gratification of having a new car today vs a better car later.

I'll continue to say this.. The M2 is not a car that BMW wants to sell in high volumes. They would rather sell customers an M240, M3 or M4 (preferably loaded with options ) as there is more profit available at both the manufacturer level and at the dealer level.

The few available M2 will go to the person that is resolute in what they want.

[srleadjb]

I currently own both an M235i and an M2 and there really is no comparison. Yes, on paper maybe but driving them back to back couldn't be more different. The M2 is better in ever single way. The engineering is on another level in the M2. It just feels perfect. The M235i is a great car but is no match for anything the M2 does except hauling groceries.

The M240i will be more of the same with a little more torque. Great car but not in the same league.

[ajvdh]

Originally Posted by srleadjb

I currently own both an M235i and an M2 and there really is no comparison. Yes, on paper maybe but driving them back to back couldn't be more different. The M2 is better in ever single way. The engineering is on another level in the M2. It just feels perfect. The M235i is a great car but is no match for anything the M2 does except hauling groceries.

The M240i will be more of the same with a little more torque. Great car but not in the same league.

I hate to say "me too", but me too. I had a 228 with the track package (basically your M235 with two missing cylinders), and even disregarding the power difference, there's no comparison in the feel and capability.

There are a couple of things you can get in the M240 that you can't get in the M2: 1 - AWD, and 2 - A sunroof (at least in the US).

[mike@x-ph.com]

It will depend on the price difference between the 2
If they are very close in price, the M2 is still the better option of course

If the M2 is much more expensive, the M240 will be an excellent option for people looking for a fun car to drive on the street

If you track your car, M2 is the obvious choice

[Nine Lives]

If I were to pull out of my order due to the differential fiasco I wouldn't look at an m240 or any other model in the BMW line up.There's nothing that floats my boat.

It's the M2 or nothing.Basically I'm not in the mood to compromise at the moment.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by ajvdh

I hate to say "me too", but me too. I had a 228 with the track package (basically your M235 with two missing cylinders), and even disregarding the power difference, there's no comparison in the feel and capability.

There are a couple of things you can get in the M240 that you can't get in the M2: 1 - AWD, and 2 - A sunroof (at least in the US).

3- a convertible top.

[Franzino]

Personally I have zero interest in a M240i even it is faster then a M2.

[rwalker]

Originally Posted by ric124

I went on BMWUSA.com and built a comparable M240i and it was $1700 less and I still won't have a LSD, M suspension with added chassis stiffening, lighter wheels, better cooling.

The M2 is a smoking deal when viewed that way.

BTW: the only cooling upgrade on the M2 is the oil cooler. Everything else is identical to that on the M235i.

[parrnan]

Originally Posted by Franzino

Personally I have zero interest in a M240i even it is faster then a M2.

BMW are limited to a ridiculous 250 km/h (155 mph) so every other sports cars (Porsche, Corvette, Mustang, Camaro, Chalenger, Charger, etc.) are "faster" than any BMW... The M240i will not be faster than the M2, they will both choke at 250 km/h when the other sports cars will say "bye bye..."

[kylejdavidson]

Originally Posted by parrnan

BMW are limited to a ridiculous 250 km/h (155 mph) so every other sports cars (Porsche, Corvette, Mustang, Camaro, Chalenger, Charger, etc.) are "faster" than any BMW... The M240i will not be faster than the M2, they will both choke at 250 km/h when the other sports cars will say "bye bye..."

Where are people driving this fast? Even on a track you're going to have a really hard time reaching the limit. And having said this as someone dumb enough in my youth to hit the limiter on a deserted highway...the limiter is a good thing. Keeps you from playing the game of seeing how fast you can go the next time.

[parrnan]

Originally Posted by kylejdavidson

Where are people driving this fast? Even on a track you're going to have a really hard time reaching the limit. And having said this as someone dumb enough in my youth to hit the limiter on a deserted highway...the limiter is a good thing. Keeps you from playing the game of seeing how fast you can go the next time.

That should be optional or BMW should remove it no charge for those who want to have it removed.

I will probably never go faster than 250 km/h with my M2 but I do not accept to be limited by a computer instead of the car power.

My M2 will cost me a little bit over $86,000 CDN (including the f#cking sale taxes, 15% here) and I want to be the one who decide !

In short, it is a matter of principle I guess.

But we're off topic, this thread's object is M240i vs M2.

[kylejdavidson]

Originally Posted by parrnan

That should be optional or BMW should remove it no charge for those who want to have it removed.

I will probably never go faster than 250 km/h with my M2 but I do not accept to be limited by a computer instead of the car power.

My M2 will cost me a little bit over $86,000 CDN (including the f#cking sale taxes, 15% here) and I want to be the one who decide !

In short, it is a matter of principle I guess.

I look at it as them saving us from ourselves haha but fair enough, I get the principle argument. Glad to see its not stopping you from getting one though.

[parrnan]

Originally Posted by kylejdavidson

I look at it as them saving us from ourselves haha but fair enough, I get the principle argument. Glad to see its not stopping you from getting one though.

And my M2 has reached status 154 (final assembly stage) today.

[kylejdavidson]

Originally Posted by parrnan

And my M2 has reached status 154 (final assembly stage) today.

Congrats!

[gmzanatta]

Originally Posted by parrnan

That should be optional or BMW should remove it no charge for those who want to have it removed.

I will probably never go faster than 250 km/h with my M2 but I do not accept to be limited by a computer instead of the car power.

My M2 will cost me a little bit over $86,000 CDN (including the f#cking sale taxes, 15% here) and I want to be the one who decide !

In short, it is a matter of principle I guess.

But we're off topic, this thread's object is M240i vs M2.

You do realize it's not BMW right? Pretty much every car in Canada is limited to 155 mph by law. Very, very few have the limiter off and all of the are well past the 6 figure mark.

Heck, even the 700+ hp hellcat is speed limited.

As for M240i vs M2 - at less than $2000 difference, the only reason to buy an M240i is because you can actually get one in a reasonable timeframe.

[parrnan]

Originally Posted by gmzanatta

You do realize it's not BMW right? Pretty much every car in Canada is limited to 155 mph by law. Very, very few have the limiter off and all of the are well past the 6 figure mark.

Heck, even the 700+ hp hellcat is speed limited.

As for M240i vs M2 - at less than $2000 difference, the only reason to buy an M240i is because you can actually get one in a reasonable timeframe.

I had 3 Porsche in the past years and none of them was speed limited.

The Corvette C7 (base model) is rated over 300 km/h, not speed limited.
Honda Civic Type R, less than $50K, 270 km/h.
Ford Focus RS, 265 km/h.

Do I need to continue ?

There is no law about that, that 155 mph thing is simply a "gentlemen agreement" between BMW, Audi and Mercedes, nothing else. No law requires it.

And for this thread topic, I see no reason to buy a M240i when it is as expensive as a M2, which is a hell of a car when the M240i is certainly a great car, but not in the same league...