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      04-20-2017, 04:59 PM   #23
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The only pattern I can think of is lack of a bespoke S designation engine in both the 1M as well as the M2, with regard to the sticker.
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It seems that the door jamb sticker is nothing to be disappointed about!
... only if it starts to say "Made in China"
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The only pattern I can think of is lack of a bespoke S designation engine in both the 1M as well as the M2, with regard to the sticker.
Given that BMW M modified the M2's N55 from the M235i enough for it to have a different code 'N55B30T0', I've always wondered why they didn't put it under the S designation. eg. S55-{something}. As listed in the M2 technical training PDF a few parts from the S55 have been incorporated.

Does the engine have to be built by scratch (BMW M) for that to be the case? While I'm sure "beefing" up the N55 was pushed by the bean counters, could it not be argued that it makes good sense to take an already great powerplant and modify it to ///M standards?

I mean, it's what they do with the base BMW cars isn't it - take an M235i, let the ///M engineers work their magic and call it an M2.

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Well, not to feed any trolls, there are those who will argue the 1M and M2 are not "true" M Cars.

BTW M4 2015 Door jamb does reference BMW M GmbH as the manufacturer.

Courtesy of EAG
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Old ones. Last car they built was the E34 M5 I believe
My 95 E36 M3 door jamb sticker says built by BMW GmbH. I think the E34 M5 was the last M car hand-built at BMW M GmbH in Garching, Germany
This is correct. The E34 M5 was the last car hand-built by BMW Motorsport GmbH as it was then called.
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If the VIN number starts with WBS instead of WBA it's an M GmbH manufactured car.

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I was looking for tyre pressure info on my M2 today, noticed the door sticker and remembered this thread.

Mine lists BMW M GMBH, so I guess some others list it too:




As others have said, it's all in the VIN prefix anyway eg. WBS - Just thought I'd post for clarity.
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Well, not to feed any trolls, there are those who will argue the 1M and M2 are not "true" M Cars.

BTW M4 2015 Door jamb does reference BMW M GmbH as the manufacturer.

Courtesy of EAG
There are other who will argue that the 1M and the M2 are the two best cars out of BMW for the last 15-20 years.
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Interesting the 10th digit is a "G" and that correlates to the year 1986 according to the chart! LOL.

Digit Eight is a 5 which is not on the chart for seatbelt type.

GVWR is 4430 lbs????? M3 above is 4255? M2 is heavier? LOL.

I don't think that chart fits the M2 code

But it does say WBS.....

Mine says Made In Japan.

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Interesting the 10th digit is a "G" and that correlates to the year 1986 according to the chart! LOL.

Digit Eight is a 5 which is not on the chart for seatbelt type.

GVWR is 4430 lbs????? M3 above is 4255? M2 is heavier? LOL.

I don't think that chart fits the M2 code

But it does say WBS.....

Mine says Made In Japan.

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G is model year 2016
H is model year 2017

The M3 GVWR of 4255 is from a 1995 E36 door jamb.

Yes the F87 M2 is heavier than an E36 M3

The chart code shown regarding restraint system digit 8, 1-4, is an old chart.
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I was looking for tyre pressure info on my M2 today, noticed the door sticker and remembered this thread.

Mine lists BMW M GMBH, so I guess some others list it too:




As others have said, it's all in the VIN prefix anyway eg. WBS - Just thought I'd post for clarity.
Very interesting!!

Could be that the NA doorjam stickers for M2's are different. At least for MY 2016

Thanks for posting.

Although this is a 2017? any 2017 NA owners have built by bmw M GMBH on their door jamb stickers
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I was looking for tyre pressure info on my M2 today, noticed the door sticker and remembered this thread.

Mine lists BMW M GMBH, so I guess some others list it too:




As others have said, it's all in the VIN prefix anyway eg. WBS - Just thought I'd post for clarity.
Very interesting!!

Could be that the NA doorjam stickers for M2's are different. At least for MY 2016

Thanks for posting.

Although this is a 2017? any 2017 NA owners have built by bmw M GMBH on their door jamb stickers
My MY16 has this same sticker.
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I was looking for tyre pressure info on my M2 today, noticed the door sticker and remembered this thread.

Mine lists BMW M GMBH, so I guess some others list it too:




As others have said, it's all in the VIN prefix anyway eg. WBS - Just thought I'd post for clarity.
Very interesting!!

Could be that the NA doorjam stickers for M2's are different. At least for MY 2016

Thanks for posting.

Although this is a 2017? any 2017 NA owners have built by bmw M GMBH on their door jamb stickers
My NA MY2017 has BMW AG on the door jam as well
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My MY16 has this same sticker.


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My NA MY2017 has BMW AG on the door jam as well
Well then perhaps ONLY US M2's have the door jamb sticker which reads manufactured by BMW AG. Odd!

Maybe that is why the Canadian NA M2's are more expensive!
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Well then perhaps ONLY US M2's have the door jamb sticker which reads manufactured by BMW AG. Odd!

Maybe that is why the Canadian NA M2's are more expensive!
My Canadian 2016 M2 has the same door jamb sticker as your US M2,manufactured by BMW AG,production month May 2016.
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My Canadian 2016 M2 has the same door jamb sticker as your US M2,manufactured by BMW AG,production month May 2016.
gmzanatta can you confirm which door jamb sticker you have? BMW AG or BMW M GMBH
I interpreted your post as having the latter.
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My Canadian 2016 M2 has the same door jamb sticker as your US M2,manufactured by BMW AG,production month May 2016.
gmzanatta can you confirm which door jamb sticker you have? BMW AG or BMW M GMBH
I interpreted your post as having the latter.
Both?

I got one of each haha

The door jamb one doesn't say MGMBH but the other one does. No idea what's going on...
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gmzanatta can you confirm which door jamb sticker you have? BMW AG or BMW M GMBH
I interpreted your post as having the latter.
Here is a picture of my door jamb sticker.
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Both?

I got one of each haha

The door jamb one doesn't say MGMBH but the other one does. No idea what's going on...
What other sticker are you referring too?

Are you able to take a picture of the sticker?
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Both?

I got one of each haha

The door jamb one doesn't say MGMBH but the other one does. No idea what's going on...
What other sticker are you referring too?

Are you able to take a picture of the sticker?
It's under the hood and ya I'll take one tomorrow.

EDIT: it looks exactly like the other one above
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This thread ended up being somewhat interesting. I'm curious about the other sticker under the hood now. Will have to check when I get back into town.
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