[evilspiritM3]

Originally Posted by AWC-F87

I had emailed APEX and they were useless for help. The one person did say "18x10et33 won't fit the front of your car with KWs."

They suggested some 9.5 in the et2x range. I really don't want that. Cause a wide running 275 would be really wide on 9.5.

Can BeastieBombRacing or OG Shark give me some more confirmation that a 18x10et33 will fit.

The one person at Apex is wrong. 18x10 et33 fits all day long in the front. W/ 10mm spacer and 275/35/18 PS4S. -2.4 degrees camber.

[SebsM2]

Originally Posted by AWC-F87

Dude!!! Great to know! Thank you! Glad to know they clear V3s until my clubsports come in! Thanks seb!

Here's a bit more proof from
Bimmerpost:

https://www.bimmerworld.com/Wheels-T...ned-Metal.html

Read the description and you'll
See they will fit. I can confirm

[OG Shark]

Like SebsM2 I’m at an effective offset of about +20 on the front. This is with Ohlins. Sounds like y’all have it pretty well nailed down.

[M1500Z]

Has anyone ventured to a 18x10.5 square setup? I know the CS Racing uses a 10.5 +46 with a massive 41mm spacer up front, but aside from that is there a 10.5" square setup that anyone has personally run?

[SEAT TIME RULES]

Originally Posted by M1500Z

Has anyone ventured to a 18x10.5 square setup? I know the CS Racing uses a 10.5 +46 with a massive 41mm spacer up front, but aside from that is there a 10.5" square setup that anyone has personally run?

I can't believe anyone would even market/sell a 41 MM spacer.

I would not get in a students car with a spacer that large. The load on the wheel bearings would be huge..

My $.02

[243Racing]

Originally Posted by M1500Z

Has anyone ventured to a 18x10.5 square setup? I know the CS Racing uses a 10.5 +46 with a massive 41mm spacer up front, but aside from that is there a 10.5" square setup that anyone has personally run?

I'm waiting for ptlgw to confirm or deny that on his M2 CS racing. That sounds like a misprint ...

[AWC-F87]

I ordered a set of apex EC7 in 18x10et33 will see how it works out! Now deciding on whether to run slicks or NT01s lol

[detroitm2]

Originally Posted by evilspiritM3

The one person at Apex is wrong. 18x10 et33 fits all day long in the front. W/ 10mm spacer and 275/35/18 PS4S. -2.4 degrees camber.

Practically any offset will fit with spacers, thats precisely what spacers are designed to do.

I'm sure that Apex was just quoting fitment without spacers. In which case they would be correct, ET33 isnt going to work on the front of the M2 with 18x10's.

[M1500Z]

Originally Posted by SEAT TIME RULES

I can't believe anyone would even market/sell a 41 MM spacer.

I would not get in a students car with a spacer that large. The load on the wheel bearings would be huge..

My $.02

Would it be any higher than a 10.5 +5 because that is effectively what it is. I believe the M4 GT4 front spacer is in the 35mm range as well.

Originally Posted by BeastieBombRacing

I'm waiting for ptlgw to confirm or deny that on his M2 CS racing. That sounds like a misprint ...

I don't believe it is. I have seen the car in the flesh at COTA and they are YUGE!

[243Racing]

Originally Posted by M1500Z

Would it be any higher than a 10.5 +5 because that is effectively what it is. I believe the M4 GT4 front spacer is in the 35mm range as well.



I don't believe it is. I have seen the car in the flesh at COTA and they are YUGE!

What an odd choice.

[evilspiritM3]

Originally Posted by detroitm2

Practically any offset will fit with spacers, thats precisely what spacers are designed to do.

I'm sure that Apex was just quoting fitment without spacers. In which case they would be correct, ET33 isnt going to work on the front of the M2 with 18x10's.

That's totally a fair point.

With that in mind I don't think there is any 18x10 square set up out there for the M2.

[Doublej]

Originally Posted by AWC-F87

I had emailed APEX and they were useless for help. The one person did say "18x10et33 won't fit the front of your car with KWs."

They suggested some 9.5 in the et2x range. I really don't want that. Cause a wide running 275 would be really wide on 9.5.

Can BeastieBombRacing or OG Shark give me some more confirmation that a 18x10et33 will fit.

Apex's site does say this:

Square Setup:
Front & Rear: 18x10" ET33 with 275/35-18 tires
Won't fit M2 Competition with 2NH brake package.
Available in EC-7, SM-10, ARC-8R and EC-7R designs only.
At least 10mm front spacers required for suspension clearance.
Requires at least 3.5 degrees of front negative camber.
285/30-18 tires may also be used.
265/35-18 tires (compounds that run wide) may also be used

[AWC-F87]

Originally Posted by evilspiritM3

That's totally a fair point.

With that in mind I don't think there is any 18x10 square set up out there for the M2.

@SebsM2 is running 18x10et33 square right no on the same suspension as me. So with that said that's what I ordered. If they don't fit I'll send them back lol

[imolam3]

I’ve been running 18x10 ET33 BBS E88 on 275/35/18 square st up on JRZ coils. You will need spacers up front. I used 15mm on mine.

[AWC-F87]

Originally Posted by imolam3

I’ve been running 18x10 ET33 BBS E88 on 275/35/18 square st up on JRZ coils. You will need spacers up front. I used 15mm on mine.

Appreciate it man. How much negative camber?

[detroitm2]

Originally Posted by evilspiritM3

That's totally a fair point.

With that in mind I don't think there is any 18x10 square set up out there for the M2.

Probably not. The closest you'd probably get is the Apex EC7's with ET25. though im not sure if those would work on the rear.

I'm running the 18x10 ET35 EC7's with 12mm spacers up front. (I run 265s, 275s would probably need larger spacers on my setup. It would be close.)

[AWC-F87]

Originally Posted by detroitm2

Probably not. The closest you'd probably get is the Apex EC7's with ET25. though in not sure if those would work on the rear.

I'm running the 18x10 ET35 EC7's with 12mm spacers up front.

The 33 should fit the front better would be my guess. Or with less of a spacer. I'm more concerned about the rear. Well see when they come lol insert nail biting

[detroitm2]

Originally Posted by AWC-F87

The 33 should fit the front better would be my guess. Or with less of a spacer. I'm more concerned about the rear. Well see when they come lol insert nail biting

Would be 10mm spacer vs 12. Not really much different. The studs I run can handle up to 12mm anyways.

I also run a 5mm spacer in the rear, though it's not really needed. Just makes it a bit more flush.

If I was to buy them new, I'd probably go with ET33. But I got mine second hand for a hell of a deal.

The ET33 setup will work fine, nothing to worry about. You will need at least a 10mm spacer up front to clear suspension with most 265 or 275s. If you're dead set on going with 275s or larger, get 75mm wheel studs and a set of both 10 and 12mm spacers. Return or sell the 12s if the 10s work out with your tires.

Or. I believe ECS has a spacer fitment kit you can rent. It's basically various size spacers you can stack to figure out exactly what you need. When you're done, you just ship it back to them (they give you a return label) and you get a refund minus a small rental fee. That's what I did.

EDIT: link. https://www.ecstuning.com/b-ecs-part...202ecs03lktkt/

[SebsM2]

Originally Posted by detroitm2

Would be 10mm spacer vs 12. Not really much different. The studs I run can handle up to 12mm anyways.

I also run a 5mm spacer in the rear, though it's not really needed. Just makes it a bit more flush.

If I was to buy them new, I'd probably go with ET33. But I got mine second hand for a hell of a deal.

The ET33 setup will work fine, nothing to worry about. You will need at least a 10mm spacer up front to clear suspension with most 265 or 275s. If you're dead set on going with 275s or larger, get 75mm wheel studs and a set of both 10 and 12mm spacers. Return or sell the 12s if the 10s work out with your tires.

Or. I believe ECS has a spacer fitment kit you can rent. It's basically various size spacers you can stack to figure out exactly what you need. When you're done, you just ship it back to them (they give you a return label) and you get a refund minus a small rental fee. That's what I did.

EDIT: link. https://www.ecstuning.com/b-ecs-part...202ecs03lktkt/

Really good info here.
Just want to chime in and say 18x10 et33 will need a 12mm spacer. The anthracite wrapped m2 (can't tag on mobile sorry) had an et33 with a 10mm spacer and he didn't clear his coilovers. I'm sure there are little rules and exceptions but go with a 12mm spacer up front. It sits perfectly flush with my 265. Plan on adding a 5mm in the back to make it a tad more flush.

[imolam3]

Originally Posted by AWC-F87

Appreciate it man. How much negative camber?

Can't recall but I think it was -3.5.

[detroitm2]

Originally Posted by SebsM2

Really good info here.
Just want to chime in and say 18x10 et33 will need a 12mm spacer. The anthracite wrapped m2 (can't tag on mobile sorry) had an et33 with a 10mm spacer and he didn't clear his coilovers. I'm sure there are little rules and exceptions but go with a 12mm spacer up front. It sits perfectly flush with my 265. Plan on adding a 5mm in the back to make it a tad more flush.

I'd imagine it depends on the tires. As we all know, r comp tires run a bit wide. 12mm spacers will definitely allow you to clear suspension running most, if not all, 265 and 275 width track tires.

[AWC-F87]

Originally Posted by detroitm2

I'd imagine it depends on the tires. As we all know, r comp tires run a bit wide. 12mm spacers will definitely allow you to clear suspension running most, if not all, 265 and 275 width track tires.

I'll hold ya to it haha Jk. I will most likely order a set of 12mm hubcentric spacers.

Now I just can't decide which tire to stuff on there. Really want to run 275 square. My car roasts 275s as it is. So I don't really want anything smaller.