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      02-16-2016, 08:10 PM   #111
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With the both of them sharing suspension components, I imagine the M2 puts the power down better simply because it isn't as powerful as the M4.
Probably true, but sometimes it's more fun to have a more controllable car even if it's slower than something that's stupid fast but more of a handful. Look at a Cayman vs a Vette, for one (albeit oversimplified) example.
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Throttle response?
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      02-16-2016, 08:21 PM   #113
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I want MY car now! Thanks for the great review and yes, I am ordering a 6MT!
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To the left of the orange M Dynamic Mode dash light (which comes on in sport+), did anyone else notice that additional driving nannies appeared to be coming on, especially as he powered out of corners? Any thoughts?
That's because DSC wasn't fully off if MDM was set as traction control.
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Sam how quick is the steering? I love how the e9x has quick steering. I hate that I need that much more input in e46 and f8x.
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Throttle response?
Exceptional. A little too sharp on the street with Sport+, but it was perfect on the track. No complaints at all.

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Here we go, this is what I was trying to say. This is from the Top Gear review
The top gear quote sounds about right. It's got better steering than the M3/4. But I've noticed that EPAS steering has improved across the board on all BMWs since the M3/4 launched. I suspect that BMW has been making tweaks behind the scenes. For example, the 640i xDrive GC that I used to ferry myself to and from the event also happened to have superb steering.

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To the left of the orange M Dynamic Mode dash light (which comes on in sport+), did anyone else notice that additional driving nannies appeared to be coming on, especially as he powered out of corners? Any thoughts?
To clarify, I had left it in Sport+ default, which has MDM on. Nannies are still present but more relaxed. You do have the ability to turn it full off. If I could go out on another track session, I would've turned it full off. I did that when I drove the F8x M3/4 cause I had more track time. There were a few times where I did feel the nannies cutting power.

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Thanks for the review Sam.

Multiple reviewers have commented about the engine's ability to keep pulling strong all the way to redline. That's really good news! That was probably the only uncertainty I had about the M2. It seems like a stellar car.

I'm happy for all the people that want to purchase this car. It seems like you can't go wrong.
Yes, it pulls to redline and it is addictive. No short shifting here.
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Sam, that was an excellent review, even if after a few minutes, your bias (love) for the car was immediately apparent, but very solid and thorough.

The M2 sounds great and looks very controllable yet fun.

Great the commentary about voting with your wallet for the 6MT and how a car in this age that forces driver involvement is something to be happy about.
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      02-16-2016, 08:28 PM   #118
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I think I know what Sam means when he says the car is more frisky. When I had an M235i for a day, it felt wild and hectic. It feels light, wants to dance around the corners. In comparison, my own M4 felt robust, tamed, twice as heavy (and less lively).

I personally didn't like the hectic feeling of the M235i chassis and steering. I didn't find it playful, but more like unbalanced and discomposed. Steering wheel was just moving on its own. Way too much on the other end of the scale. If M2 is similar to that, I think I wouldn't like it, but to each his own. I think it would need to be somewhere between M235i and M3/M4.

(Cayman to me is actually playful and frisky but balanced and composed. But again, there's only so much BMW can do with a front engine car.)
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Sam, thanks for the great review! I really enjoyed that.

Your enthusiasm for the M2 is catchy for sure, and you genuinely enjoyed yourself out there (yes, the pacific coast drive is amazing).

Can't wait to see more videos from you in the future!

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Great the commentary about voting with your wallet for the 6MT and how a car in this age that forces driver involvement is something to be happy about.
I agree and hopefully the demographics it hits home with are the younger generations as well. Kids who are starting to drive, and high school and college kids who one day want an M car or Cayman or a Corvette, whatever. Keep the tradition alive!

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Exceptional. A little too sharp on the street with Sport+, but it was perfect on the track. No complaints at all.



The top gear quote sounds about right. It's got better steering than the M3/4. But I've noticed that EPAS steering has improved across the board on all BMWs since the M3/4 launched. I suspect that BMW has been making tweaks behind the scenes. For example, the 640i xDrive GC that I used to ferry myself to and from the event also happened to have superb steering.



To clarify, I had left it in Sport+ default, which has MDM on. Nannies are still present but more relaxed. You do have the ability to turn it full off. If I could go out on another track session, I would've turned it full off. I did that when I drove the F8x M3/4 cause I had more track time. There were a few times where I did feel the nannies cutting power.



Yes, it pulls to redline and it is addictive. No short shifting here.
Hey Sam, I think you might have liked the 640i xDrive steering because it is hydraulic! However, typically xDrives have numb steering, so this is quite interesting news...
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      02-16-2016, 08:57 PM   #124
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Autoblog says otherwise... "As a quick aside, the HUD is clear and functional – not a new feature for BMWs, but worth noting." http://www.autoblog.com/2016/02/16/2...-drive-review/
No HUD according to this picture: http://www.caranddriver.com/photo-ga...ve-review-2#48
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Sorry, nope. Didn't have the time to really explore beyond the core essentials. These press launches are actually really hectic and stressful. We're up at 6am, get to the track by 7:30, press conference and then drives. In between driving, I also have to fit in all my B-Roll photography, eating lunch, partnering with people and signing out cars, and managing my 20 pounds of gear and batteries. If I got a car later on for a normal week long test, I would get into more of this. Not saying your question was invalid, but I've been looking for an opportunity to share what these press launches are like.

Wow sounds like quite a fast paced day! I can't imagine the amount of time that was put into everything. We all appreciate the effort put into this and without a doubt is the best review out. Thanks!
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Thank you Sam for the thorough, well executed, and passionate review. Watching how the car drove and seeing your true enthusiasm sold me on the car. I was waffling between the M2 and M3, but the video sold me. Watching the car on the track and the road is exactly what I was hoping for.

So much so, after your video, I called the dealership I had been working with and put my deposit down on the M2...I'm number one in line!!!

Thanks again so much for your efforts (and you too Jason!) it is greatly appreciated!
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Great stuff

Are those brake noise at the track?
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Great stuff

Are those brake noise at the track?
Sam already addressed this. They installed track pads for the track.

Oem pads will not squeak.
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Great stuff

Are those brake noise at the track?
Sam already addressed this. They installed track pads for the track.

Oem pads will not squeak.
Oh sorry didnt read every post
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hi sam, could you tell the differance 0-60 dct vs manual, was one more quicker that you could feel. What would you guess the 1/4mile at? thanks for the great review.
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