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One more quick question for now. Is there an estimated release date? Are we talking 2023 or Q1, Q2 of 2024?
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Anticipating Q1 since we are going into the holidays now and everything starts to slow a bit. I am also pushing for the R3 version first as that one seems to have the most interest in the elec-TRON format. Once I have it in hand we need to get out and do some testing too. We will jump on that immediately but can't say exactly how long that will take - we will keep working at it until we have in our opinion the best possible version to offer. Thankfully the shipping time from us to Inertia Laboratory is overnight which cuts down a lot of time (they will handle the revalving).
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I think the Roadsport kit will be Q1 as well. I know they were still working out the detail of the spring production being a non-linear. Everything else was ready to go as seen in the pics from SEMA though. Going to work with those a bit too once we have them and see if we want to make any adjustments to them. Hopefully we have the R1 around the same time so I can make a direct comparison between the two.
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The road kit - that funky looking spring is the progressive for the front in a similar setup to the oem design. The front will be like pictured below. The rear will still have the same setup as the oem with a divorced spring which is linear. They use the stock top mounts. The R1 - correct it will have linear springs and adjustable camber plates. They look the same as traditional kit except minus the dial - adjustment will be completely through the EDC control. The rear also defaults as divorced but you can opt for coilover (I would stick with divorced though). Design - yes we will look for our kit to be very compliant but still push the performance as much as we can like we did with the traditional kits. These will outperform the road kit - the question is how far we can push that without sacrificing the ride quality and until we see how much range is available we won't know for sure. I do think for weekender usage the R1 will be a better fit though based on what have seen in the traditional kits. |
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11-16-2023, 09:11 PM | #29 |
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Almost 3yrs from delivery and I still walk into the garage and say out loud "Man, I love this car." My suspicion is that this Elec-TRON R1 and/or R3 kit is going to make the M2 about as perfect as a car can be.
Any effort to make the camber plates as quiet as possible would be appreciated I'd say that is the only downside of my current suspension mods. The camber plates are a little noisier than I would like. It could be the springs though. Take your time getting them out. I want you to have plenty of seat time dialing them in. What is the extra adjustment on the R3 and what would be the game plan for using that added adjustment to improve DD duty?
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Hopefully OG Shark has a M2CS for testing. Let me know if I need to ship mine down to Texas
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We are going to have these available along with our traditional kits as soon as we get our hands on the test kits and get them dialed in exactly where we want them. I’ll keep updating this thread as I get more info. Nitron is trying to get them to us as fast as they can. I’ll keep that in mind - but no complaints when I have to start the “extended” testing phase |
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My future F80 will definitely be getting a set of road sports. So sick. Last edited by ThreeStripes; 11-19-2023 at 09:06 PM.. |
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What you are hitting on though is in the works. Nitron is working on a standalone controller that will be inline with what you are talking about. I expect it to be a step up from the oem programming with more options to choose from. As far as the user being able to adjust as well I do believe that will be an option too based on who I know they are working with for their controller. Rise of the custom suspension tuner... |
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Will the custom tuning controller be compatible with all systems or only select systems. While my car has EDC. It might be nice at a later time to be able to add a controller that allows for custom tuning. If it would not be compatible with eR1, but would be compatible with eR3. That might help with decision making on which system to get.
Shame they don't have a way to have two EDC valves to make an R3 fully electronic. Especially if there will be an electronic tuning module. Maybe they'll add that or be able to add a stepper motor to the valves for remote control.
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At the end of the day I'm expecting you to do all the work and tell me what settings are best. At least good road settings and a good starting point from track No pressure
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Fully electronic is what I was imagining. Using EDC to control one setting, and the other two are controlled using a separate ECU that changes modes based off messages from the BMW's bus as to which mode its in.
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The more I read the more I'm still trying to understand.
If the R1 is single adjustable, but two way. Rebound and low speed compression. And the R3 is 3 way adjustable. rebound, low speed compression, and high speed compression. Is the EDC only controlling rebound? Or is R3 triple adjustable, but 4 way? And the EDC will control rebound/low speed while the knobs adjust high/low compression.
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The R1 is yes singe adjustment but considered a two way. The EDC control will both rebound and compression. The valve's adjustment is predetermined and the settings will basically be more or less for a lack of better terms. Instead of a full dial of adjustment range like with the traditional R1 the eR1 will have the three levels for comfort, sport, & sport+. We will be going through everything like we did with the traditional kit to see if there is any room for improvement to make the most of each of those 3 settings. Ultimate plug & play - once we have these dialed in all you have to do is just push the button. The R3 is at a different level. It is still 3 way - separate dials for high and low speed comp with rebound being fully controlled through the EDC button. The way rebound is controlled it is not possible to have an adjuster rod with dial and a wire running through the piston rod - so it's one or the other. So the only rebound adjustment is the EDC button here hence still being a 3 way. Rebound is the largest force though so making an adjustment just to it inside the car will make a big change in the behavior of the car. For a street car this allows us to bring in compression to a level conducive to comfort and then the EDC switch still allows you to ramp the car up when desired and not have to go absolutely full stiff if you do not want to. Allows you to really tailor the ride characteristics as you see fit. If you track then you still have the option to take the compression where you need to to be and still work the rebound with the EDC control. And with high and low speed bump being separate you can really dial in for things like curbs, bumpy tracks, etc. We will certainly provide baseline setting recommendations with the kits too. The R3 kit for the F8x is being spec'd as piggyback reservoirs. I personally prefer hosed remote canisters with quick disconnects on the hoses as they are much more convenient to make adjustments to and also move the reservoirs away from the heat from the brakes. Both will perform excellently but the remote/hosed versions will come in about 1200.00 more due to the price of the QDs. Personal preference here just fyi. |
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Have gotten word that the kits are going into production and we can start taking orders. This is for Nitron's standard off the shelf kit - which while I expect to be a great setup I'm not quite sure what it will be like until we get our test kits. Our first test kit is going to be the eR3 and will be here shortly and we will start development immediately - so our option will not be available for a bit longer. I can start taking order on their standard kit though. And if we find that there is nothing we want to change we are not going to mess with it just for the sake of having our own "custom" kits.
The R3 is spec'd with piggyback reservoirs. Per the previous post I prefer remoted w/hoses and quick disconnects but both are certainly great options and comes down to personal preference. Nitron elec-TRON R3: 8,367.00 USD + shipping (piggyback); 9,547.00 USD + shipping (remote w/QDs) Nitron elec-TRON R1: 5.867.00 USD + shipping Nitron elec-TRON Road Kit: 4,667.00 USD + shipping The Road Kit is not quite ready yet as they are still getting the production of it's unique springs squared away. Everything that is needed for installation will be included (including camber plates for the R1 & R3). |
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