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      10-07-2015, 12:11 PM   #89
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Not sure the bodywork has moved things on from the 1M. Indeed think I prefer the 1M. Need to see the final reveal but a bit disappointed

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I think the 1M as a whole looks better to me right now


This was after seeing a white M235 at a stop light last night in Lewisville and I drove along with it for a couple of miles. I looked at the back quarters and the rear A LOT as we drove. I didn't have the heart to try and get the owner's attention from my DD SUV.

When I got home I went into the garage myself last night and looked at my car and I came up with the same emotion.

I love the rear haunches on the 1M. it looks far better from the rear 3/4 view and full rear view.

I think the M2 will look better when we get to see the final rear diffuser.... but... I don't think it will change my overall opinion on the rear of the 2 series. I like the front end... overall shape.... I haven't liked the taillights and rear bumper on any of the 2 series yet..

And then I walked inside and saw M4 GTS videos and photos.. Agree with others that the M4 looks better.

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make up your damn mind!

actually I can't neither at this point.

It went from sell e90m to f80 to f82 to cayman gt4 to cayman gts to m2 to keep e90m full track build + mini cooper to f82 to m2 now. dammit.
sigh: agre... gotta say I am kinda all over the place too.

Sell 1M for a MINT and get M2 ... Keep the 1M and Wait for M2 CSL.... keep 1M and order an X1.... if BMW would hurry up and announce an M2 gran coupe it would make my life a lot easier LOL

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      10-07-2015, 12:13 PM   #90
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IMHO the M235i bumper looks rather bland while the M2 bumper might end up looking a bit over-the-top. Let's wait and see...

Overall, I think the 2-series (base car) fixes many of the things that looked odd in the old 1-series coupé. It's an improvement but it's still not what I'd call BMW design at it's best.

The 1M was a bit of a different beast. Its design features distracted well from the overall "slightly odd" looks of the base car. It really was spot-on. Not sure if the M2 will be quite as much of an improvement over the base 2-series.

In short: I like it so far, but I think the M4 looks better.

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This. The 1 series coupe was a pretty ugly car. The 1Ms charm came from the M flares and proportions it acquired as a result of being an M-division fettled product. The 2er, overall, is rather good looking bar the rear and the awkward droop it still has from the doors to the rear quarter. The M2 will address much of this. Whilst the rear lights could also do with slimming, its already shaping up to be a bit more of a looker than the 1M.

The M235i front end with the performance splitter looks pretty darn good imho. Some middle ground between that and the M3/4 front would have been ideal.
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      10-07-2015, 12:16 PM   #91
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my struggle is to find that perfect double duty (albeit I don't mind driving a track focused car daily) car, or to have a dedicated plus cheap but fun daily car.....a car where you can WOT, row through 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and still be at about 55mph LOL.

but I don't see a pickup truck so the track should be able to be driven to and from. or buy a pickup and a trailer.

what is life doing to me?!
I would think the E90 M3 is about as perfect of a car when it comes to double duty no?

Either way, I'd highly recommend trying the E36 M3 as a cheap but fun daily car. Prices are still for the most part reasonable. It's plenty quick for DD duties, but at the same time, you can really use its 240 hp and not go to jail... too often.
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      10-07-2015, 12:28 PM   #92
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This car looks soft. As does the rest of the 2er platform.

There and no hard angles on the front, making it appear more bulbous and less of that polished, sharp look. The vents, when unveiled, will help a lot. As will aero add-ons like a front lip, etc.

Then again I thought the e92 M3 looked soft, and I ended up loving it like crazy!
I think the top strip is taking away a very aggressive line on the car and giving it that bulbous look.

I think this thing looks awesome. I agree with the e92 sentiment. This will have the same effect!
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      10-07-2015, 12:31 PM   #93
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I would think the E90 M3 is about as perfect of a car when it comes to double duty no?

Either way, I'd highly recommend trying the E36 M3 as a cheap but fun daily car. Prices are still for the most part reasonable. It's plenty quick for DD duties, but at the same time, you can really use its 240 hp and not go to jail... too often.
yes it is - that's why the decision is even harder when it comes to having to let it go.

but i need (stock) more power LOL
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      10-07-2015, 12:48 PM   #94
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Meh, not impressed. Was hoping for more fender flare closer to the 1M. If I could I'd purchase the 1M over this. However, still holding the faith till the reveal... only by a thread.
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yes it is - that's why the decision is even harder when it comes to having to let it go.

but i need (stock) more power LOL
Test pipes and stage 2 tune does help a ton. I personally have 0 desire to supercharge my E92.

Ok maybe not 0, but not high up my list
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Newb question... Will a FBO m235i X drive be faster in the quarter than a M2 FBO?

You know, all wheel drive and all.
What appeal, does the M2 have (besides exclusivity) for those that want to go fast in a straight line.
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This car looks soft. As does the rest of the 2er platform.

There and no hard angles on the front, making it appear more bulbous and less of that polished, sharp look. The vents, when unveiled, will help a lot. As will aero add-ons like a front lip, etc.

Then again I thought the e92 M3 looked soft, and I ended up loving it like crazy!
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This. The 1 series coupe was a pretty ugly car. The 1Ms charm came from the M flares and proportions it acquired as a result of being an M-division fettled product. The 2er, overall, is rather good looking bar the rear and the awkward droop it still has from the doors to the rear quarter. The M2 will address much of this. Whilst the rear lights could also do with slimming, its already shaping up to be a bit more of a looker than the 1M.

The M235i front end with the performance splitter looks pretty darn good imho. Some middle ground between that and the M3/4 front would have been ideal.
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Meh, not impressed. Was hoping for more fender flare closer to the 1M. If I could I'd purchase the 1M over this. However, still holding the faith till the reveal... only by a thread.


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I think the top strip is taking away a very aggressive line on the car and giving it that bulbous look.

I think this thing looks awesome. I agree with the e92 sentiment. This will have the same effect!
Ian///M Is correct.

The camo that remains on the car is hiding what I believe is it's most aggressive factor - it's shape of the rear flare. That's why the strip of camo remains.

Look here:



The rear flare is insane. But with the camo, the insanity is only visible from a specific angle. Hence why in these side shots, it looks weak.

but if you see through the camo you can see how beastly the rear quarters will be.





The camo is there for a reason, and it's obviously working very well. People are going to be 'WOWed' on reveal.
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      10-07-2015, 01:09 PM   #98
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Test pipes and stage 2 tune does help a ton. I personally have 0 desire to supercharge my E92.

Ok maybe not 0, but not high up my list
I don't do any engine mods. I have had 2 blown motors (other cars) and just not worth any time towards engine. It just has to be great out of the box (which it is and we're just spoiled lol).

Only handling and sound mods from here on out.
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      10-07-2015, 01:15 PM   #99
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This is going to make a great looking soft top convertible. Will there be a powerdome hood bump? I hope and assume so.
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check it out: What lies beneath the camo

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showt...1#post18706201
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Newb question... Will a FBO m235i X drive be faster in the quarter than a M2 FBO?

You know, all wheel drive and all.
What appeal, does the M2 have (besides exclusivity) for those that want to go fast in a straight line.
Think long and hard on that question. And you will come up with the answer.

You do know that the M2 is not just about straight line performance? You do realize that it has the subframe and suspension of the M3/M4? And possible weight savings as well. And you do know that a higher performance CSL variant has been alluded to?
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Think long and hard on that question. And you will come up with the answer.

You do know that the M2 is not just about straight line performance? You do realize that it has the subframe and suspension of the M3/M4? And possible weight savings as well. And you do know that a higher performance CSL variant has been alluded to?
You're right. That makes sense.
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Agreed, pretty much narrowed it down to MG or Black for me. Leaning towards MG, to finish off the shark-like appearance those fangs show me.
Agree, but I'm still pretty much set on BSM.
Any white color hides the creases and character lines on a car.
Those lines appear as highlights on a dark color.
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Weird that it has a moonroof and sad that it's not CF double-bubble roof. Guessing that also means no power dome in the hood.
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This car reminds me of the F80 with the two rear doors chopped off (that's a compliment). This coupe overall has better proportions than the F82.

A CF roof would have been pretty wicked, but maybe BMW will make reparation by bestowing this car with the original driving experience BMW used to be known for? We shall find out soon!
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I don't know man, this m2 needs to have the presence that the 1m had. This looks like a hooked up 235i. Not impressed, still hopeful as this m2 is on my list for weekend cars. The more I see the m2 and all these articles about f8x M, the more I want an e9x M3 again.
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I won't be surprised at all if the M2's front fascia "brake duct" intakes have blacked-out flaps like in the G11 7-Series M Sport model. Seems to be one of the latest sporty BMW design tweaks. Then again, maybe not. All other current M cars have body-color "flaps" above the intakes.

But I'm extremely happy that the oddball "door sill hockey stick" won't be on the M2:





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Ian///M Is correct.

The camo that remains on the car is hiding what I believe is it's most aggressive factor - it's shape of the rear flare. That's why the strip of camo remains.

Look here:



The rear flare is insane. But with the camo, the insanity is only visible from a specific angle. Hence why in these side shots, it looks weak.

but if you see through the camo you can see how beastly the rear quarters will be.



The camo is there for a reason, and it's obviously working very well. People are going to be 'WOWed' on reveal.
Yup, I agree with you all the way.

I'll go even further and I'll say that there is a vent there like the GT Vision concept. Been saying it since the start, and if you remember me, I've been bring it up to you because you seem to be the most enthusiastic about the reveal.

I think there is a false panel on this new white car where the rear quarter panel is. A forum member already spotted it but didn't know he did. If you look closely the rear quarter panel is an off-white and goes at a diagonal. The forum member thought it was from old camo, I think it's to cover up a vent (it's likely not functional). Even if there isn't a vent, that is definitely a false panel that is covering up the design language of the rear fender flares.



The blue M2 where you drew the front bumper shows the arches a little better, look down near the side skirt and you can see there is the start to a false panel there too.
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