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      10-13-2015, 08:15 PM   #221
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No M-Mirrors, no M-Seats, no Carbon Fiber roof. We all know this means...BMW is going to introduce all these things and more in a future M2 (M2 CSL). Hopefully MY 2017. Now that's what I'll get my hands on and trade in my M235i for. Apple play will even be available at that point.
Someone's not familiar with BMW's product cycle...
I can't tell if your being sarcastic or for real
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      10-13-2015, 08:18 PM   #222
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      10-13-2015, 08:26 PM   #223
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Again, with all due respect...you gotta do apples vs apples not apples vs oranges. If the discount for ED is going from 7% to 5% in December then it will be on ALL models including the M3. So the price difference between them will still be a lot more than $5,000.

M3 MSRP 63,200 (-D&H) with 5% ($3209) discount =$59,991
M2 MSRP 51,000 (not confirmed) with 5% ($2550) discount =$48450
Difference = $11,541

And really your arguing $750 rebate? lol
You didn't get his point. If you don't wait until next year, you can get an M3 now via ED for way more than $5k less than MSRP (7% is around $4300 plus $750 rebate, plus whatever else you can squeeze out of the dealer). Call it $54-55k.

But an M2 ED will go out for $51k - 5% ($2600), plus dealer markup for a great part of 2016 - $48.4k plus markup. Call it $50k.

So it's not a $11k difference at least initially.



It's not that important. If you want the M2 you will get that, and if you want an M3 you can make that work. I bet the lease monthly rates will be very similar. I'm paying around $650/month for my car, for reference.

I like the extra practicality of my M3, but if the M2 had ALL the M3 bits, I'd probably chose that instead.
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      10-13-2015, 08:30 PM   #225
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You didn't get his point. If you don't wait until next year, you can get an M3 now via ED for way more than $5k less than MSRP (7% is around $4300 plus $750 rebate, plus whatever else you can squeeze out of the dealer). Call it $54-55k.

But an M2 ED will go out for $51k - 5% ($2600), plus dealer markup for a great part of 2016 - $48.4k plus markup. Call it $50k.

So it's not a $11k difference at least initially.



It's not that important. If you want the M2 you will get that, and if you want an M3 you can make that work. I bet the lease monthly rates will be very similar. I'm paying around $650/month for my car, for reference.

I like the extra practicality of my M3, but if the M2 had ALL the M3 bits, I'd probably chose that instead.
My real point really was it wasn't an apples to apples comparison because he said $5,000 difference on ED.

There is a group of members signed up for the ED group next year and they are getting a significant discount without rebates and without a markup.
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      10-13-2015, 08:30 PM   #226
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You can buy M mirror aftermarket, and you can install sports seats on your own. Then its the perfect car...
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I think you are missing the point of the 1M and M2 - they are kept simple and "cost-saving" from certain perspectives on purpose. They give you over 90% of the performance of the M3/4, but not all the trinkets that are available. That's the point - they give you a taste of ///M, and if you want a fancier or more comfortable or more CF-blinged out car, there are options. Up the food chain and with a higher profit margin for BMW.
Isn't that how BMW marketed the Mx35i cars? A straight up M car shouldn't be giving you "a taste of M."

Anyways, the car looks great, especially the proportions. Hopefully more details about the engine come out soon.
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This sounds way better than the F80's
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You didn't get his point. If you don't wait until next year, you can get an M3 now via ED for way more than $5k less than MSRP (7% is around $4300 plus $750 rebate, plus whatever else you can squeeze out of the dealer). Call it $54-55k.

But an M2 ED will go out for $51k - 5% ($2600), plus dealer markup for a great part of 2016 - $48.4k plus markup. Call it $50k.

So it's not a $11k difference at least initially.



It's not that important. If you want the M2 you will get that, and if you want an M3 you can make that work. I bet the lease monthly rates will be very similar. I'm paying around $650/month for my car, for reference.

I like the extra practicality of my M3, but if the M2 had ALL the M3 bits, I'd probably chose that instead.
Damn, how are you leasing an F80 for $650 a month?
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No M-Mirrors, no M-Seats, no Carbon Fiber roof. We all know this means...BMW is going to introduce all these things and more in a future M2 (M2 CSL). Hopefully MY 2017. Now that's what I'll get my hands on and trade in my M235i for. Apple play will even be available at that point.
An M2 CSL will easily be $85k, on par with Cayman GT4. Or more expensive.

Certainly out of my price range.

And who the hell cares about Apple play in an M2 freakin CSL, ultimate track toy.
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You didn't get his point. If you don't wait until next year, you can get an M3 now via ED for way more than $5k less than MSRP (7% is around $4300 plus $750 rebate, plus whatever else you can squeeze out of the dealer). Call it $54-55k.

But an M2 ED will go out for $51k - 5% ($2600), plus dealer markup for a great part of 2016 - $48.4k plus markup. Call it $50k.

So it's not a $11k difference at least initially.



It's not that important. If you want the M2 you will get that, and if you want an M3 you can make that work. I bet the lease monthly rates will be very similar. I'm paying around $650/month for my car, for reference.

I like the extra practicality of my M3, but if the M2 had ALL the M3 bits, I'd probably chose that instead.
Damn, how are you leasing an F80 for $650 a month?
35k downpayment
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      10-13-2015, 08:46 PM   #233
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Pretty cool little bimmer. the two posts that stood out to me were the round gas cap - this is very interesting since the m235i and my m3 (among countless other bmws) are square lol. Also, I am loving what the fellow poster said about the knee pad with contrast stitching!
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      10-13-2015, 08:46 PM   #234
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I'll get blasted for this but I don't love it. Even with the somewhat odd front lights on the last gen 1 series, I think the 1M had more right in the looks department.

I would save for another year and pickup an M3.
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Damn, how are you leasing an F80 for $650 a month?
Simple. MSRP $67k+, ED with discount $61k ($1k incentive included). 36 months lease with 10k miles per year, 65% residual (!!), .00159 MF (7 MSD), zero down.

Just be careful with the options and you can make it work.
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Can't wait to order one! I must have one, hmmm but what colour..
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No M-Mirrors, no M-Seats, no Carbon Fiber roof. We all know this means...BMW is going to introduce all these things and more in a future M2 (M2 CSL). Hopefully MY 2017. Now that's what I'll get my hands on and trade in my M235i for. Apple play will even be available at that point.
An M2 CSL will easily be $85k, on par with Cayman GT4. Or more expensive.

Certainly out of my price range.

And who the hell cares about Apple play in an M2 freakin CSL, ultimate track toy.
Ya CSL would be out of my budget too. What I mean to say is BMW left out some small things that they'll introduce on later model years. Typical BMW
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35k downpayment
On a lease? that'd be silly.
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Simple. MSRP $67k+, ED with discount $61k ($1k incentive included). 36 months lease with 10k miles per year, 65% residual (!!), .00159 MF (7 MSD), zero down.

Just be careful with the options and you can make it work.
Thanks for the response. Is 65% residual normal? I gotta start doing my homework on leasing haha
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Not bad but I dont love it...but it will grow on me

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So at 51K it'll be nice and easy on the payments. My ideal downpayment goal would be 10K, hopefully my wife gets a job by then.

So can we say that it's been confirmed that this will enter regular production unlike the 1M?
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Sounds better because of the single twin scroll turbo, right?
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