[jaehshim]

the true M died with S65
no real M engine, just pumped up N55/54s in all Ms...so boring...
it used to be a lot special to have an M car....those S54s....S65s...
now it's nothing different from audi's S models...sharing all similar engine platform, M2 M3 M4 M5 M6 X5m X6m, come on over let's swap engines around we all have the same shit
trend of bigger fenders, larger tires, same turbos with big power at low rpm to impress first 5 minutes of every single journalist...let's see if they are still impressed in a long run "true" ownership and after warranty...lol
no wonder my eyes are going to jaguar F types and C63 sedans...at least C AMG looks beautiful inside

[Falafel Combo]

Originally Posted by swagon

2. Why no M mirrors? He was told that since the M2's body is so different from the standard 2 Series, BMW decided to not give it special M mirrors.

3. The M buttons and customization like we know it from other M GmbH vehicles is not present in the M2. Instead, it is pre-set and you select various driving modes via the standard F-gen button near the shifter. Eco to Sport Plus, and Sport Plus is MDM. It also gives you the fastest DCT shifts.

2. Is the stupidest most lame excuse I ever heard. Good thing it was a closed door meeting.

3. Well, that's just disappointing. Sounds like NOT an M car. SMH.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by swagon

2. Why no M mirrors? He was told that since the M2's body is so different from the standard 2 Series, BMW decided to not give it special M mirrors.

Oops.

[abirmaher]

Originally Posted by Cope

Ugh, so in order to deactivate auto rev matching for the manual I'll have to drive at all times in reduced TC settings? That's quite preposterous.

Yeah, thats how it is on the M3/M4 as per my understanding.

[stvding]

no m-mirror, no m button changing setting...not my cup of tea

[Cope]

Originally Posted by abirmaher

Yeah, thats how it is on the M3/M4 as per my understanding.

Iirc you can set just the throttle settings to sport plus and leave everything else in something else, and you'd deactivate rev matching while retaining TC.

[OrangeCrush]

Originally Posted by jaehshim

the true M died with S65
no real M engine, just pumped up N55/54s in all Ms...so boring...
it used to be a lot special to have an M car....those S54s....S65s...
now it's nothing different from audi's S models...sharing all similar engine platform, M2 M3 M4 M5 M6 X5m X6m, come on over let's swap engines around we all have the same shit
trend of bigger fenders, larger tires, same turbos with big power at low rpm to impress first 5 minutes of every single journalist...let's see if they are still impressed in a long run "true" ownership and after warranty...lol
no wonder my eyes are going to jaguar F types and C63 sedans...at least C AMG looks beautiful inside

E46 owners said that the true M died with the E46. So there's that.

[spmd11]

Imagine the M3/M4 with 328 mirrors... Case closed. The M2 is chock full of compromises.

[Oliver1]

No M mirrors, no power dome, no M buttons, no M stitching, a reworked N55. Should have just called it an M235is.

[YungDro]

thread closed....

[DVC]

Wow, this thread went full retard since I last checked in...

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by jaehshim

the true M died with S65
no real M engine, just pumped up N55/54s in all Ms...so boring...
it used to be a lot special to have an M car....those S54s....S65s...
now it's nothing different from audi's S models...sharing all similar engine platform, M2 M3 M4 M5 M6 X5m X6m, come on over let's swap engines around we all have the same shit
trend of bigger fenders, larger tires, same turbos with big power at low rpm to impress first 5 minutes of every single journalist...let's see if they are still impressed in a long run "true" ownership and after warranty...lol
no wonder my eyes are going to jaguar F types and C63 sedans...at least C AMG looks beautiful inside

LOL. So you're 3800 lb torque-less V8 bloated boat is the last 'true' M car? hahahahahaha!!

*pause*

hahahahahaha

[DVC]

Originally Posted by BGR

I highly, HIGHLY doubt they will offer linear spring with their M Performance coilver kit. Because then they are tasked with offering different spring rates or have people complain about how stiff the ride is...

I had a chat with a KW tech the other day about the M2 coil overs... He was partially familiar with the project, but was only allowed to share limited details. He admitted that he didn't know for sure on the springs, but he said he thought they were about equally likely possibilities based on his view of the overall goals of the kit for the M2.

[swagon]

Originally Posted by DVC

I had a chat with a KW tech the other day about the M2 coil overs... He was partially familiar with the project, but was only allowed to share limited details. He admitted that he didn't know for sure on the springs, but he said he thought they were about equally likely possibilities based on his view of the overall goals of the kit for the M2.

What springs does KW use? I highly doubt bmw would use different springs on the MP Gewindefahrwerk.

Regarding your questions: M2 has in Germany passive suspension, 100% sure. He doesn't know about the coilovers more than we do.

[ORIGIN M.]

The ///M4mirrors were not fitted because they did not fit /

[simon.]

Originally Posted by Powaup

will the idrive display tire temperature, love this function in the F8x but the f32 doesnt have it

It does if you code it.

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by Oliver1

No M mirrors, no power dome, no M buttons, no M stitching, a reworked N55. Should have just called it an M235is.

Thats what the M235i should've been called.

[swagon]

Originally Posted by red-sauerkraut

Thats what the M235i should've been called.

No. 235i and offer a ZHP/"is" package.

[eau_rouge]

There will be no Eco-Mode available for the M2. Just Comfort, Sport and Sport Plus which activates MDM. As there is no adaptive suspension, this will only affect throttle sensitivity and steering.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by eau_rouge

There will be no Eco-Mode available for the M2. Just Comfort, Sport and Sport Plus which activates MDM. As there is no adaptive suspension, this will only affect throttle sensitivity and steering.

AFAIK, M2 6MT:
- rev matching in Comfort Mode and Sport Mode;
- no rev matching in Sport Plus mode.

[N & M]

Originally Posted by YungDro

Pathetic comment. You dont know a thing about M cars if you think that.. And a c63? Lol merc is using THE SAME engine in every model that looks THE SAME. get your eyes checked and do some research youre clueless.

Mercedes lately has been doing well in general interior design from a cosmetic point of view especially on AMG models. Ergonomically, they have issues, but they impress the eye.

[chris719]

Originally Posted by Artemis

AFAIK, M2 6MT:
- rev matching in Comfort Mode and Sport Mode;
- no rev matching in Sport Plus mode.

Has anyone on the F80/F82 been able to access the rev match setting through aftermarket software outside of the drive mode selector?

I think it's stupid how BMW and Porsche have decided to couple rev matching to the other driving settings.