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      07-18-2017, 12:38 PM   #1
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Hi there, gang. I hope everyone's well.

I wanted to check in and see what the forum's thoughts were on this. I know that break in is a rather controversial topic but wanted to take the temperature anyway.

Long story short, doing my best to keep the M2 under 4k revs for the first 1200 mi. CA noted if I go on long drives to vary the RPMs at highway speed.

That said, I've got a trip planned for the last week in July down to DC. Really don't feel like taking my VW down there as the AWE Tuning exhaust drones and I am pretty sure my g/f will want to slit my throat after three hours.

So, would you/wouldn't you put on ~500 miles at highway speed BEFORE the 1200 mi service?
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Did it with my last four cars (all BMWs all since 2008 including M5, X6 50i, 650GC, and M2)- that's what happens when you do PCD or have a dealer 300 miles away.

Vary the RPM occasionally (I spent time in 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th) and don't worry too much about the RPM, nothing bad happens if you go over 4,500 here and there.

PS - not one of those cars ever burned oil (M2 is too new to comment on).
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[Most] Everyone who does ED does this. Just do your best to vary the RPM (as he said) and your road speed.
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I flew to NOLA and bought it, drove to Nashville, drove it for a few days locally, drove to ATL and had the service done. I didn't think twice about any of this.
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BTW, the break-in rev limit (hah) is 5500rpm
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It looks like you're not doing a lot of spirited drivings with your GF on this road trip. So that this journey would be actually a better "break in" practice than the stop-go in downtown city, provided you don't cruise at certain rpm for long.

Remember the oil BMW put into M car out of factory is less protective and only good for break-in, so refrain please
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[Most] Everyone who does ED does this. Just do your best to vary the RPM (as he said) and your road speed.
The above is true. I did 1,100 miles on ED, over half of which was on the autobahn, French or Swiss highways. Delivery guy at the Welt told me 5,500 rpm and 104 mph max during break in. I never once exceeded his recommendations

OP, you'll be fine, enjoy your trip.
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Remember the oil BMW put into M car out of factory is less protective and only good for break-in, so refrain please
I've never heard this - I have heard of Honda putting an additive in theirs (and thus asking you NOT to change your oil early), but nothing from BMW about this. Any chance you can provide more detail?
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It looks like you're not doing a lot of spirited drivings with your GF on this road trip. So that this journey would be actually a better "break in" practice than the stop-go in downtown city, provided you don't cruise at certain rpm for long.

Remember the oil BMW put into M car out of factory is less protective and only good for break-in, so refrain please
I have heard that BMW *may* use a special break-in oil blend for M-cars, but not "less protective". That would be idiotic.

...and just for the record - this "special break-in oil" idea was *never* proven. I call it bunk.
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I've never heard this - I have heard of Honda putting an additive in theirs (and thus asking you NOT to change your oil early), but nothing from BMW about this. Any chance you can provide more detail?
It's correct. M cars come with thinner oil. This is the reason for the 1200 mile service - it's basically an oil change.
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It's correct. M cars come with thinner oil. This is the reason for the 1200 mile service - it's basically an oil change.
That would mean the fluid is different in the diff too - and I'm pretty sure that's not the case. The "normal" reason to change fluids early is to remove the metal shavings that occur in the first couple hundred miles.

A quick search doesn't turn up much - but I'm open to finding out more!
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[Most] Everyone who does ED does this. Just do your best to vary the RPM (as he said) and your road speed.
The above is true. I did 1,100 miles on ED, over half of which was on the autobahn, French or Swiss highways. Delivery guy at the Welt told me 5,500 rpm and 104 mph max during break in. I never once exceeded his recommendations

OP, you'll be fine, enjoy your trip.
I bought mine in Pensacola, FL and drove it back to South Dakota, 1700 miles the first week. Pulled into the dealer at 1250, serviced, and raged for the last leg.

I have had no issues and just hit 9k with the second service completed 2 weeks ago.
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      07-23-2017, 07:54 AM   #13
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Hi .. as far as i'm aware the ' Break in ' service is important to have done before 1200 miles. Mine went in at 1170
As mentioned earlier in thread, the service oil is thiner viscosity and is there to collect internal engine debris particles. Treat her right and she'l please you in the long term.
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As mentioned earlier in thread, the service oil is thiner viscosity and is there to collect internal engine debris particles. Treat her right and she'l please you in the long term.
And from all my searching I can find NOTHING that says BMW uses a different oil for the factory fill. Someone please prove it - of note, for you young ones on the board, the 1,200 mile service was not originally unique to the M cars - it was all BMWs at one point - because it is a smart thing to do NOT because the oil is different.

PS - thinner viscosity would not collect the particles - thicker would .
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And from all my searching I can find NOTHING that says BMW uses a different oil for the factory fill. Someone please prove it - of note, for you young ones on the board, the 1,200 mile service was not originally unique to the M cars - it was all BMWs at one point - because it is a smart thing to do NOT because the oil is different.

PS - thinner viscosity would not collect the particles - thicker would .
Very interesting to hear Doug 999 . Dealership changed both Engine and Diff oil at the 1200 mile service. Lots of mechanical parts moving in engine so metal shavings and debris will be collected in the oil filter.
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And from all my searching I can find NOTHING that says BMW uses a different oil for the factory fill. Someone please prove it - of note, for you young ones on the board, the 1,200 mile service was not originally unique to the M cars - it was all BMWs at one point - because it is a smart thing to do NOT because the oil is different.

PS - thinner viscosity would not collect the particles - thicker would .
Very interesting to hear Doug 999 . Dealership changed both Engine and Diff oil at the 1200 mile service. Lots of mechanical parts moving in engine so metal shavings and debris will be collected in the oil filter.
And they used to change the trans too. It is all a good idea, and truth be told, most engine builders would tell you it is a bit late (earlier is better).

In fact all cars would benefit from this - and you can imagine the pushback from consumers "I just bought this thing and I have to take it back in?"

My point however is, I just don't think the factory fill oil is different. Doesn't need to be.
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I might of read somewhere in the forum someone mentioned that the motor oil is the same but the differential oil is a break in oil which seems reasonable.
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All of you guys stating that the oil is different should post your source. I am guessing there is none, otherwise this would be common knowledge.

Even if it were different oil, it doesn't change BMW's recommendation of under 5500 rpm, under 105(ish) mph, and vary the engine speed as much as possible.
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All of you guys stating that the oil is different should post your source. I am guessing there is none, otherwise this would be common knowledge.

Even if it were different oil, it doesn't change BMW's recommendation of under 5500 rpm, under 105(ish) mph, and vary the engine speed as much as possible.
Break in oil is mineral oil, not fully synthetic so it does not have the same protection as synthetic. The last engine I built I broke it in using mineral oil and I have done this on the last 2 engines, I was informed to do this by an engine manufacturer.
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