[medphysdave]

Would be interesting if two test mules were a comp pack and CS. Might explain the standard vs larger brakes.

https://www.motormag.com.au/news/170...ion-on-its-way

[kab_m2]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

Would be interesting if two test mules were a comp pack and CS. Might explain the standard vs larger brakes.

https://www.motormag.com.au/news/170...ion-on-its-way

I don't know how reliable this is or where they get there info from.

Everything I have seen (and I've been researching this for a while as I'm in the market) points to a CS model rather than ZCP.

If there was a ZCP then I'd be all over it. Right now I'm planning on ordering a standard LCI for '18.

Anyone found any more info to corroborate this article?

[DoggieHowser]

Before anyone freaks out, the prices quoted are in Australian dollars.

The current M2 has an RRP of just under 100k. So the markup is pretty modest.

The M2 is also quite well spec-ed - comparable to the Exec Package and has DCT as standard.

[medphysdave]

Interesting sideways action Midway through. Wonder if they playing with suspension.
Just my observation...the car getting sideways had different color wheels than the one that stayed planted. Could be two different cars. Or testing different wheel tire combo.

[hellrotm]

Yup, that is a S55. Sounds nearly identical to this M4 GTS testing video.

[somer]

Please be an arm rest!

[K1won]

Originally Posted by somer

Please be an arm rest!

I was feeling the same way about the CS

Maybe GTS version can get trimmed down with no arm rest but CS could have one.

[cc3]

Not sure CS will have enough bhp for the price given this RS3 released today from Audi. Almost 400 bhp for £45000! Makes a standard M2 look under powered

CS will need a lot of lightweight material if it only gets 400 bhp

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/audi/rs...specs-revealed

[GimmeanM]

Originally Posted by cc3

Not sure CS will have enough bhp for the price given this RS3 released today from Audi. Almost 400 bhp for £45000! Makes a standard M2 look under powered

CS will need a lot of lightweight material if it only gets 400 bhp

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/audi/rs...specs-revealed

...and it comes with all that extra understeer for free too!

Pass.

[Gatte]

Originally Posted by GimmeanM

...and it comes with all that extra understeer for free too!

Pass.

The GT4 has a little understeer at it's limits as well. The RS3 will be an improvement on previous audis and should have reduced understeer. This will not compete with the M2 CS and is probably relevant competition to the base M2 except in 0-60 times.

The competition however is catching up with BMW. The 3 series is already not what it once was. The 2 series is probably the best driver's car that BMW makes. They've got to step it up if they want to stay ahead of the competition and get close to Porsche.

[kiysersosae]

Originally Posted by Gatte

The GT4 has a little understeer at it's limits as well. The RS3 will be an improvement on previous audis and should have reduced understeer. This will not compete with the M2 CS and is probably relevant competition to the base M2 except in 0-60 times.

The competition however is catching up with BMW. The 3 series is already not what it once was. The 2 series is probably the best driver's car that BMW makes. They've got to step it up if they want to stay ahead of the competition and get close to Porsche.

All BMW need to do is put the cars on a diet, they are all over weight compared to the competition

[cc3]

Originally Posted by kiysersosae

All BMW need to do is put the cars on a diet, they are all over weight compared to the competition

Agree. If it doesn't happen in CS then they are not serious about making proper performance cars that can do some track work.

[Advevo]

BMW should make cars drivers cars less big.

The sweetspot in size in my opinion is the 1M coupe. M2 is already bigger again. That means also more weight.

If they had put the same technology in a 1M coupe sized M2 the car would easily be a lighter anyway.

First size and then the weight will come down also. I don t need a drivers car which grows bigger with every new model!!!!!!!

[86Zed]

So it seems like a few big ticket items are up in the air, namely price and a manual transmission option? Are dealers taking refundable deposits already?

[chmura]

Originally Posted by 86Zed

So it seems like a few big ticket items are up in the air, namely price and a manual transmission option? Are dealers taking refundable deposits already?

I have had a $1k deposit with MSRP pricing (in writing) for the CS since December 2016. That's only if the CS has an manual transmission. If DCT only I do not want a CS.

[TTBear]

Thanks for your help, guys. Can anyone confirm/refute that one needs to provide BMW with a list of previously owned BMWs in order to be considered for the CS? I was certain that I had read this somewhere, but now I can't find it anywhere.

After 3 M3s, 3 X6Ms, an X5 4.6is, a Z4 M Roadster, and an M235i, I hope we would make the cut, if this is the case!!!

Thanks again, everyone. Much appreciated.

[cc3]

Originally Posted by TTBear

Thanks for your help, guys. Can anyone confirm/refute that one needs to provide BMW with a list of previously owned BMWs in order to be considered for the CS? I was certain that I had read this somewhere, but now I can't find it anywhere.

After 3 M3s, 3 X6Ms, an X5 4.6is, a Z4 M Roadster, and an M235i, I hope we would make the cut, if this is the case!!!

Thanks again, everyone. Much appreciated.

No allocation information in the UK yet despite what some people might post ! Dealers taking deposits with expression of interest

[marcusfva]

Originally Posted by Gatte

The GT4 has a little understeer at it's limits as well. The RS3 will be an improvement on previous audis and should have reduced understeer. This will not compete with the M2 CS and is probably relevant competition to the base M2 except in 0-60 times.

Maybe not on the paper but in the real street life the M2 CS and the new RS3 will be direct competitors. In my opinion the BMW marketing can't ignore the wide different in pricing that already exist between the new RS3 (53.500 Eu for the SB + 4-5k Euro to have the same equipment) and the standard M2 DCT (69.000 Eu - IT prices).

If the BMW CS will cost at least 10K EU more than the standard (+- 80.000Eu), this price difference will became to big more than 20k Eu - in this market segment - to justify any better skills that could have over the RS3.

Just my personal european thought

[cc3]

Originally Posted by marcusfva

Maybe not on the paper but in the real street life the M2 CS and the new RS3 will be direct competitors. In my opinion the BMW marketing can't ignore the wide different in pricing that already exist between the new RS3 (53.500 Eu for the SB + 4-5k Euro to have the same equipment) and the standard M2 DCT (69.000 Eu - IT prices).

If the BMW CS will cost at least 10K EU more than the standard (+- 80.000Eu), this price difference will became to big more than 20k Eu - in this market segment - to justify any better skills that could have over the RS3.

Just my personal european thought

I agree with you. BMW won't be able to justify that differential in pricing. Mercedes coming to the party as well

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...-sharp-styling

[GimmeanM]

Originally Posted by TTBear

Thanks for your help, guys. Can anyone confirm/refute that one needs to provide BMW with a list of previously owned BMWs in order to be considered for the CS? I was certain that I had read this somewhere, but now I can't find it anywhere.

After 3 M3s, 3 X6Ms, an X5 4.6is, a Z4 M Roadster, and an M235i, I hope we would make the cut, if this is the case!!!

Thanks again, everyone. Much appreciated.

In the States dealers give out allocations as they see fit. BMW corporate does not dictate to them how to do so. Some will be taking deposits while others may refuse until official announcement. However given the production capacity of the Lepzig factory I don't think there are going to be a large volume of these produced. If you want in hunt around for a dealer that can get you on their list (high on their list too...1 through 3 in my opinion)

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by marcusfva

Maybe not on the paper but in the real street life the M2 CS and the new RS3 will be direct competitors. In my opinion the BMW marketing can't ignore the wide different in pricing that already exist between the new RS3 (53.500 Eu for the SB + 4-5k Euro to have the same equipment) and the standard M2 DCT (69.000 Eu - IT prices).

If the BMW CS will cost at least 10K EU more than the standard (+- 80.000Eu), this price difference will became to big more than 20k Eu - in this market segment - to justify any better skills that could have over the RS3.

Just my personal european thought

I picked up my M2 with close to £7k discount as a pre reg. This significantly under cut the RS3 in my local UK market.

For me RS3 wins hands down as a point and shoot type car AWD auto only etc.

Classic BMW traits persist with an M2.

[chmura]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

I've already driven a DCT s55... and I am currently OUT of line for this car if it comes with a DCT. No MT.. no sale.

does that answer your query ?

#NOT a lemming- If i am gonna fork over my hard earned cash on a new vehicle purchase .. I buy the car I WANT .. not the car that a particular manufacturer wants me to buy.. if I had done so I would have jumped on the 135 and never waited for a 1M

Same here. No 6MT CS, no sale.