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If you are talking about this one, yes.

After Pyrat 2 put this up and people cleared on how to lift the back I have used those points to lift with jack and then just place jack stands on the lift points in the corners.
Thanks! I will use that front jack point then
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You're not bending over far enough
In the case of using these points with jack stands, did you place the top of the jack stand directly into these points ... or did you put a jack pad into the point first, and then put the jack stand underneath the pad..?

I was recommended these jack pads (which look great), but the page advises that they are not suitable with jack stands ... so I'm trying to work out how to correctly place the jack stand

Thanks!
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Hi omasou,

In the case of using these points with jack stands, did you place the top of the jack stand directly into these points ... or did you put a jack pad into the point first, and then put the jack stand underneath the pad..?

I was recommended these jack pads (which look great), but the page advises that they are not suitable with jack stands ... so I'm trying to work out how to correctly place the jack stand

Thanks!
You can either jack the car up using the
  1. front or rear center jack point and place the jack stands under the side jack points or sub frame
  2. a jack point and place the jack stands under the subframe, see post #13
  3. front or rear side jack point high enough that you can put a jack stand other the other jack point on the same side
I use the first method, b/c I can place a jack stand under each side.

Save yourself money and buy some hockey pucks b/c they work on all of the jack points plus if you mangle the side jack point they are cheap to replace. The reason those adapters are not good with jack stands are b/c as you lower the car it moves along an angle (hypotenuse).

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Thanks for the info here.

How about placement of jack stands back and front.

This one work for the back?

What about front?
hmm...can't seem to quote with the picture included.

Maybe it's just me, but the jackstand placement in post #13 doesn't look so good. I personally don't like jackstand points that don't have a decent amount of flat to work with (or that somehow ensure that the car won't slip off). That looks like an accident waiting to happen.

In the past I've seen cars slip off of jackstand points that I thought were solid. I get pretty paranoid about where I put them now.
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hmm...can't seem to quote with the picture included.

Maybe it's just me, but the jackstand placement in post #13 doesn't look so good. I personally don't like jackstand points that don't have a decent amount of flat to work with (or that somehow ensure that the car won't slip off). That looks like an accident waiting to happen.

In the past I've seen cars slip off of jackstand points that I thought were solid. I get pretty paranoid about where I put them now.
That particular type of jack stand has a u shaped head and the upper sides of the u have purchase on each side if the seam. He could have also place them on the round part of the sub frame more toward the center but probably couldn't b/c I'm guessing he jacked the car up by the center of the subframe.

To your point that's why I usually put the wheel I take off under the other tire to hopefully catch car and/or leave the jack in place. should it come down. But hey totally agree if it looks sketchy find a more secure method.
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Thanks for the info here.

How about placement of jack stands back and front.

This one work for the back?

What about front?
hmm...can't seem to quote with the picture included.

Maybe it's just me, but the jackstand placement in post #13 doesn't look so good. I personally don't like jackstand points that don't have a decent amount of flat to work with (or that somehow ensure that the car won't slip off). That looks like an accident waiting to happen.

In the past I've seen cars slip off of jackstand points that I thought were solid. I get pretty paranoid about where I put them now.
Read first page. I was asking in that picture and fellow members clarified my questions.
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Read first page. I was asking in that picture and fellow members clarified my questions.
I read that response and yes you can place the jack stands under the side jack points but I also don't see a problem w/what you did. The car would have to jump up to come out of the notch in the jack stand head and off that placement.
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I read that response and yes you can place the jack stands under the side jack points but I also don't see a problem w/what you did. The car would have to jump up to come out of the notch in the jack stand head and off that placement.
I've seen cars slip off of jack stand points that I would have sworn were perfectly safe. I'm not saying to not use this point, just be careful. The picture could be making it look less safe than it is as well.

As always, YMMV
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Thanks omasou,
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You can either jack the car up using the
  1. front or rear center jack point and place the jack stands under the side jack points or sub frame
  2. a jack point and place the jack stands under the subframe, see post #13
  3. front or rear side jack point high enough that you can put a jack stand other the other jack point on the same side
I use the first method, b/c I can place a jack stand under each side.
That's the method I'm thinking of using. I guess my question was whether you placed the top of the jack stand directly into the jack point ... which looks like you've answered. I appreciate the tip about putting the tyres under the car ... good advice. Part of raising the car is for performing the rear deflector delete ... removing tyres is optional for that, but I might just go ahead and do it.

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Save yourself money and buy some hockey pucks b/c they work on all of the jack points plus if you mangle the side jack point they are cheap to replace. The reason those adapters are not good with jack stands are b/c as you lower the car it moves along an angle (hypotenuse).
Hockey pucks may not be so easy to find here in AU ... but I'll go have a look. I take it that you mean to use the pucks *if* I screw up the jack points..?

Appreciate the (great) advice!

Cheers,
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Picked up that Arcan jack - works great, thanks for that recommendation SGL

I'm a bit worried about that rear jack point though. The diff seems to get in the way, so I wasn't really able to get a whole lot of the saddle onto that cross member. I had a polyurethane pad on the jack that shot out the back due to the extreme compression on one end. Luckily the car wasn't off the ground yet...

Eventually I got the rear of the car up by just using the bare metal on the jack but I have to say I'm rather worried that she might slip off the jack while being raised or lowered. To my eyes, it looks like maybe half an inch to the edge of the jack. I snapped a quick picture to show what I'm talking about.

Can someone tell me if I'm doing something wrong or somehow underestimating the amount of contact I'm making here?


Btw, I'm gonna ditch that jack pad and grab hockey puck. It seems way to slippery for it's intended purpose.
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Picked up that Arcan jack - works great, thanks for that recommendation SGL

I'm a bit worried about that rear jack point though. The diff seems to get in the way, so I wasn't really able to get a whole lot of the saddle onto that cross member. I had a polyurethane pad on the jack that shot out the back due to the extreme compression on one end. Luckily the car wasn't off the ground yet...

Eventually I got the rear of the car up by just using the bare metal on the jack but I have to say I'm rather worried that she might slip off the jack while being raised or lowered. To my eyes, it looks like maybe half an inch to the edge of the jack. I snapped a quick picture to show what I'm talking about.

Can someone tell me if I'm doing something wrong or somehow underestimating the amount of contact I'm making here?


Btw, I'm gonna ditch that jack pad and grab hockey puck. It seems way to slippery for it's intended purpose.
I also have an Arcan jack and recently tried to lift from the rear (also with a jack pad), but had trouble reaching the lift point properly due to my M Performance diffuser getting in the way.

If I were to try this again, I would get the tires onto some wooden blocks to gain more height before trying to lift from the rear to be safe. Same goes for the front lift point.
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I also have an Arcan jack and recently tried to lift from the rear (also with a jack pad), but had trouble reaching the lift point properly due to my M Performance diffuser getting in the way.
Reaching the lift point was fine (I have the stock diffuser) the problem I had is that I couldn't get the cross beam centered on the jack without also hitting the differential. Backing up the jack meant I was precariously lifting from the edge of the saddle.
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You're not bending over far enough
If you were jacking the car up to change tires at the jack points indicated but want the assurance that if the jack failed there's a jack stand holding the car up, where would you put the jack stand since you've already used the jacking point?
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You're not bending over far enough
If you were jacking the car up to change tires at the jack points indicated but want the assurance that if the jack failed there's a jack stand holding the car up, where would you put the jack stand since you've already used the jacking point?
I use the jack points for the jack stands and jack the car from the center jack points.
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Picked up that Arcan jack - works great, thanks for that recommendation SGL
So the Arcan can reach the front center jack point?
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So the Arcan can reach the front center jack point?
In my experience - just barely. If you're lowered even a tiny bit, or just have 18" rims like I do the top of the jack will scrape against the underside of the bumper. I think I mentioned this in another post but these days I just always use a smaller jack on one side to get the front up an extra .5" which makes getting to the lift point much easier.
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Put the trolly jack under one of the side points and lift until you can fit an axle stand (with or without puck) under the other point on the same side. Repeat on the other side.

Simples...
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^ That's how I do it as well.
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That looks like a good solution, what's the product?
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That looks like a good solution, what's the product?
QuickJack but down here it will set you back $2500 Had been thinking about one but yesterday watching the Bathurst 12HR saw the Supercheap Auto sale & I've picked up a ToolPro low profile 3ton trolley jack & 4 stands for $260 (all half price), a saving worth the extra work.
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That looks like a good solution, what's the product?
QuickJack but down here it will set you back $2500 Had been thinking about one but yesterday watching the Bathurst 12HR saw the Supercheap Auto sale & I've picked up a ToolPro low profile 3ton trolley jack & 4 stands for $260 (all half price), a saving worth the extra work.
Actually cost me $1k but yes still a lot of cash. I gotta say I was pushing it off for a few years and don't regret the splurge. I track two street cars a few times a year. All the brake pad and tire swaps really take it out of my back when using the jacks. Highly recommended if you can part with the cash.
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