Official: BMW M2 begins production in November 2015 for the U.S.!

bimmer4life24 · 01-15-2015, 01:38 PM

The question is how many will be produced? I know it's not going to be limited like the 1M, but will they produce MY2016 to MY2018?

chmura · 01-15-2015, 01:38 PM

Where are all the spy shots of the M2? There has not been a big update on spy pics for over a month now. When the M4 was coming out we kept seeing pics of ring testing, random pics of it on the road with camo, etc.

Where are the M2 spy pics!!!??? We need an update!

///M ARMY · 01-15-2015, 01:51 PM

This is good news. Wonder what price point

KevinM · 01-15-2015, 01:52 PM

Well, this news certainly makes my F80 vs. F87 decision more difficult. Can't wait to see final specs and price.

W/// · 01-15-2015, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex07M3

In Canada there was a $15-16k difference between a stripped M3 coupe with performance pack($74-75k) and the 1M($59-60k), if there's the same difference between these two new models(M4 and M2), that would put the M2 a good $10k over the price of a base CLA45(50-51k) AMG, not sure what could justify that!

My idea has always been, take the base price of an M3 ($62) and M235i ($43k), divide by 2. That gives you exactly $52.5k potentially for the M2 and I think that would make perfect sense. I still hope to see something like $49.5, but I think that's probably a bit too optimistic.

FYI, price of a $48.5. But we already seeing M235i's competing against them and even sometimes winning.

WWM3 · 01-15-2015, 02:16 PM

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Disagree. On both counts.
The 1M was not more special than the E9x M3 because it had a standard turbo motor. It was very special because of its playful character, great handling, back to the basics approach. And it happened to be a limited run.

I disagree partially here. To some, the turbo motor was a massive differentiator and people welcomed the shorter chassis (for whatever reason) with a torquey motor.

While I'm super excited about the M2, I'm still waiting to see the final specs, including the price. I couldn't care less about standard features, don't want them. If you drive an F80, and then jump into the M235i, the size of the 2er felt so much more "right". It's so much more of a 1 to 1 replacement for my E36. That's not to say an F80 is off the menu for me.

I'll put it to you this way, I have a 1 series, had a 3... wish I could have a 3 again as it is a much better, much more stable chassis... the shorter chassis does nothing for the car other than make it more sloppy and squirrely. That very thing was said about the 1m. As far as weight, this is BMW... I wouldn't put any "weight on that".

P.S. I personally doubt that the car will start at 55k, but we'll see

Moral of the story, some preferred the 1M over the M3 for very good reasons... there is little reason to prefer the M2 over the M3 especially if pricing isn't far off. It would be a completely different discussion if it wasn't a motor that has been recycled 10 times now and the M3 wasn't vastly superior.

How can you accurately state something is "vastly superior" over something else when so you know so little about it?

ModificaClassica · 01-15-2015, 02:19 PM

Not sure if anybody has already posted about this, but I saw this Military configurator online today for the m2:

http://www.bavarianmotorcars.com/bmw...upe-config.php

W/// · 01-15-2015, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ModQuench

Not sure if anybody has already posted about this, but I saw this Military configurator online today for the m2:

http://www.bavarianmotorcars.com/bmw...upe-config.php

That's the wrong one. That is M235i, and not the actual M2

ASAP · 01-15-2015, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WWM3

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Originally Posted by ASAP

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Originally Posted by W///

Disagree. On both counts.
The 1M was not more special than the E9x M3 because it had a standard turbo motor. It was very special because of its playful character, great handling, back to the basics approach. And it happened to be a limited run.

I disagree partially here. To some, the turbo motor was a massive differentiator and people welcomed the shorter chassis (for whatever reason) with a torquey motor.

While I'm super excited about the M2, I'm still waiting to see the final specs, including the price. I couldn't care less about standard features, don't want them. If you drive an F80, and then jump into the M235i, the size of the 2er felt so much more "right". It's so much more of a 1 to 1 replacement for my E36. That's not to say an F80 is off the menu for me.

I'll put it to you this way, I have a 1 series, had a 3... wish I could have a 3 again as it is a much better, much more stable chassis... the shorter chassis does nothing for the car other than make it more sloppy and squirrely. That very thing was said about the 1m. As far as weight, this is BMW... I wouldn't put any "weight on that".

P.S. I personally doubt that the car will start at 55k, but we'll see

Moral of the story, some preferred the 1M over the M3 for very good reasons... there is little reason to prefer the M2 over the M3 especially if pricing isn't far off. It would be a completely different discussion if it wasn't a motor that has been recycled 10 times now and the M3 wasn't vastly superior.

How can you accurately state something is "vastly superior" over something else when so you know so little about it?

It has to do with brand cannibalization... common sense and pricing stategies would dicate so.

BLU135i · 01-15-2015, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ModQuench

Not sure if anybody has already posted about this, but I saw this Military configurator online today for the m2:

http://www.bavarianmotorcars.com/bmw...upe-config.php

That's the M235. If you click on two series as the top of the page it lists two options. A 228 and a 2 M coupe. The options listed, such as wheels are straight from the 235. Besides there has been at least one color ( a blue but can't rember the name) that is not listed there. It also says "msport" all over those standard options which points to the 235 as well. Think this was in another post as well

WWM3 · 01-15-2015, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ASAP

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Originally Posted by WWM3

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Originally Posted by ASAP

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Originally Posted by W///

Disagree. On both counts.
The 1M was not more special than the E9x M3 because it had a standard turbo motor. It was very special because of its playful character, great handling, back to the basics approach. And it happened to be a limited run.

I disagree partially here. To some, the turbo motor was a massive differentiator and people welcomed the shorter chassis (for whatever reason) with a torquey motor.

While I'm super excited about the M2, I'm still waiting to see the final specs, including the price. I couldn't care less about standard features, don't want them. If you drive an F80, and then jump into the M235i, the size of the 2er felt so much more "right". It's so much more of a 1 to 1 replacement for my E36. That's not to say an F80 is off the menu for me.

I'll put it to you this way, I have a 1 series, had a 3... wish I could have a 3 again as it is a much better, much more stable chassis... the shorter chassis does nothing for the car other than make it more sloppy and squirrely. That very thing was said about the 1m. As far as weight, this is BMW... I wouldn't put any "weight on that".

P.S. I personally doubt that the car will start at 55k, but we'll see

Moral of the story, some preferred the 1M over the M3 for very good reasons... there is little reason to prefer the M2 over the M3 especially if pricing isn't far off. It would be a completely different discussion if it wasn't a motor that has been recycled 10 times now and the M3 wasn't vastly superior.

How can you accurately state something is "vastly superior" over something else when so you know so little about it?

It has to do with brand cannibalization... common sense and pricing stategies would dicate so.

Because something is priced higher than something else it must be superior? Because cannibalization?

An M5 is more expensive than an M3 so it must be "superior"?

ASAP · 01-15-2015, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by WWM3

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Originally Posted by ASAP

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Originally Posted by WWM3

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Originally Posted by ASAP

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Originally Posted by W///

Disagree. On both counts.
The 1M was not more special than the E9x M3 because it had a standard turbo motor. It was very special because of its playful character, great handling, back to the basics approach. And it happened to be a limited run.

I disagree partially here. To some, the turbo motor was a massive differentiator and people welcomed the shorter chassis (for whatever reason) with a torquey motor.

While I'm super excited about the M2, I'm still waiting to see the final specs, including the price. I couldn't care less about standard features, don't want them. If you drive an F80, and then jump into the M235i, the size of the 2er felt so much more "right". It's so much more of a 1 to 1 replacement for my E36. That's not to say an F80 is off the menu for me.

I'll put it to you this way, I have a 1 series, had a 3... wish I could have a 3 again as it is a much better, much more stable chassis... the shorter chassis does nothing for the car other than make it more sloppy and squirrely. That very thing was said about the 1m. As far as weight, this is BMW... I wouldn't put any "weight on that".

P.S. I personally doubt that the car will start at 55k, but we'll see

Moral of the story, some preferred the 1M over the M3 for very good reasons... there is little reason to prefer the M2 over the M3 especially if pricing isn't far off. It would be a completely different discussion if it wasn't a motor that has been recycled 10 times now and the M3 wasn't vastly superior.

How can you accurately state something is "vastly superior" over something else when so you know so little about it?

It has to do with brand cannibalization... common sense and pricing stategies would dicate so.

Because something is priced higher than something else it must be superior? Because cannibalization?

An M5 is more expensive than an M3 so it must be "superior"?

In some instances yes. The M5 has a better and more powerful engine and is faster (at least in a straightline). Part of the market segment says that must be the case... albeit there is a much bigger difference between an m3 and an m5 than there will between the m2 and m3. For starters, the m5 weighs more than an aircraft carrier, so my preference still lays in the m3... no matter what you're still getting a retuned n55... this car may be better than an m3 at an autocross but it ends there.

WWM3 · 01-15-2015, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ASAP

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Originally Posted by WWM3

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Originally Posted by ASAP

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Originally Posted by WWM3

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Originally Posted by ASAP

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Originally Posted by W///

Disagree. On both counts.
The 1M was not more special than the E9x M3 because it had a standard turbo motor. It was very special because of its playful character, great handling, back to the basics approach. And it happened to be a limited run.

I disagree partially here. To some, the turbo motor was a massive differentiator and people welcomed the shorter chassis (for whatever reason) with a torquey motor.

While I'm super excited about the M2, I'm still waiting to see the final specs, including the price. I couldn't care less about standard features, don't want them. If you drive an F80, and then jump into the M235i, the size of the 2er felt so much more "right". It's so much more of a 1 to 1 replacement for my E36. That's not to say an F80 is off the menu for me.

I'll put it to you this way, I have a 1 series, had a 3... wish I could have a 3 again as it is a much better, much more stable chassis... the shorter chassis does nothing for the car other than make it more sloppy and squirrely. That very thing was said about the 1m. As far as weight, this is BMW... I wouldn't put any "weight on that".

P.S. I personally doubt that the car will start at 55k, but we'll see

Moral of the story, some preferred the 1M over the M3 for very good reasons... there is little reason to prefer the M2 over the M3 especially if pricing isn't far off. It would be a completely different discussion if it wasn't a motor that has been recycled 10 times now and the M3 wasn't vastly superior.

How can you accurately state something is "vastly superior" over something else when so you know so little about it?

It has to do with brand cannibalization... common sense and pricing stategies would dicate so.

Because something is priced higher than something else it must be superior? Because cannibalization?

An M5 is more expensive than an M3 so it must be "superior"?

In some instances yes. The M5 has a better and more powerful engine and is faster (at least in a straightline). Part of the market segment says that must be the case... albeit there is a much bigger difference between an m3 and an m5 than there will between the m2 and m3. For starters, the m5 weighs more than an aircraft carrier, so my preference still lays in the m3... no matter what you're still getting a retuned n55... this car may be better than an m3 at an autocross but it ends there.

We don't have any details about this engine. It could be more than just "retuned." I agree that the engine choice doesn't sound especially appealing, but I am reserving judgement until the final details are known.

W/// · 01-15-2015, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ASAP

In some instances yes. The M5 has a better and more powerful engine and is faster (at least in a straightline). Part of the market segment says that must be the case... albeit there is a much bigger difference between an m3 and an m5 than there will between the m2 and m3. For starters, the m5 weighs more than an aircraft carrier, so my preference still lays in the m3... no matter what you're still getting a retuned n55... this car may be better than an m3 at an autocross but it ends there.

Let's no derail this thread too much. The new X5M will do so many things better than an F80 (more room, more luxurious, more power, more expensive), but that doesn't mean that it's for everyone.

Exact same idea for the M2. Will it be faster than an M3? Absolutely not, and I'm pretty sure everyone here knows that. But it'll be nimbler than the M3 hopefully (which is EXACTLY why so many people enjoyed the 1M over the heavier and less nimble E9x).

If I wanted something that's purely for numbers, I'd go out there and buy a GT350 for about the same price. But that's obviously not what I want.

SW19 · 01-15-2015, 03:03 PM

If production starts in November of 2015,when would dealers receive the first batch of cars?

SickFinga · 01-15-2015, 03:14 PM

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I thought they were renaming the 235 to 240 for the 16 model year.

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I was under the same impression. Did BMW back off as the m240i would have been way too close to the m2 powerwise?

MY2017

auf Deutsch · 01-15-2015, 03:20 PM

Just a hunch....I think Ford lit a fire under BMWs ass with how much love the GT350 has been getting, enough so that they pushed up the US production date of the M2. Competition favors the consumer and we win because of it.

Diver · 01-15-2015, 03:24 PM

Tasty!

M3 Adjuster · 01-15-2015, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ASAP

Moral of the story, some preferred the 1M over the M3 for very good reasons... there is little reason to prefer the M2 over the M3 especially if pricing isn't far off. It would be a completely different discussion if it wasn't a motor that has been recycled 10 times now and the M3 wasn't vastly superior.

Kevin_Genius@BMWMtLaurel · 01-15-2015, 03:25 PM

no pricing info available, stoked to see this in person

Kevin_Genius@BMWMtLaurel · 01-15-2015, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Nantucket

If production starts in November of 2015,when would dealers receive the first batch of cars?

spring ish

Golden Arrow · 01-15-2015, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by W///

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Originally Posted by Alex07M3

In Canada there was a $15-16k difference between a stripped M3 coupe with performance pack($74-75k) and the 1M($59-60k), if there's the same difference between these two new models(M4 and M2), that would put the M2 a good $10k over the price of a base CLA45(50-51k) AMG, not sure what could justify that!

My idea has always been, take the base price of an M3 ($62) and M235i ($43k), divide by 2. That gives you exactly $52.5k potentially for the M2 and I think that would make perfect sense. I still hope to see something like $49.5, but I think that's probably a bit too optimistic.

FYI, price of a $48.5. But we already seeing M235i's competing against them and even sometimes winning.

If it really does sell for somewhere around $50k, it'll make me sad that I didn't wait to buy this instead of my 335.

It's going to be a great car!

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