[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by cenz422

found exactly as you mentioned on front two only. Rear was fine

Wow.

I am not impressed with these reports at all.

[CantComplain]

One on my e90 made it 10 years and 130k miles. Dealers!

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1418259

[doug_999]

Originally Posted by Stage IV

He wanted 4 doors and more lux.

Well, I needed 4 doors

The luxury is nice, don't get me wrong - I'm really impressed and can't believe I didn't miss this stuff in the M2.

But the ride... and the rev match. Those two things just wore on me.

Never gave it much thought about changing out the suspension. Interesting idea for those who don't like it.

PS - of note, the M2 snow tires work!

[qnet]

I had the same issue on my Focus RS, but they looked nothing like those. On the RS they were installed in the front springs. You could see it easily, and it made a noise when I turned. This would be hard to see if you weren't looking for it.

[amrk47]

do these have the shipping blocks?

[champignon]

There is a family of squirrels who have taken up residence under the driver side rear wheel well. Don't let these creatures into your garage, they will wreck havoc.

[S1monQc]

At the dealer with blocks



After

[ZPrime]

The ridiculous part of this is that there is a big orange/red sticker on the car that tells the dealership to remove these as part of PDI.

I took a picture of it on my car before they did the prep stuff, let me see if I still have it...

[ZPrime]

This is with the blocks still in, you can see the red sticker...







In the dealer techs' defenses, it's kind of hard to tell from this image alone that those circle things are in the front. They are "bolded" and on the image, but none of the little lines / arrows are actually pointing to them.

[qnet]

Hopefully I won't have this issue when I pick mine up at the performance center. There is a sticky on the Focus RS forum to check for these, although with the noise it made I would have looked at it anyway. The thread just allowed me to pinpoint it faster.

[ZPrime]

PCD will be fine, the techs there are employed by BMW and know their shit.

It's the lower-volume dealerships that don't see a lot of M cars where I'd expect this kind of thing to be missed. (Do the non-M cars have these?)

[seis-speed]

What is a tire to fender measurement for a quick check to make sure??

TIA!

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by ZPrime

In the dealer techs' defenses, it's kind of hard to tell from this image alone that those circle things are in the front. They are "bolded" and on the image, but none of the little lines / arrows are actually pointing to them.

Sticker:

"ATTENTION!

DURING LOADING OF VEHICLE
Because of reduced ground clearance drive slowly during loading.

DELIVERY INSPECTION
Front and rear axle springs blocked on the left and right side.
Immediately after transport remove all rubber blocking devices from front spring and/or rear spring [...] refer to installation drawing

Rubber blocking devices:
alternatively parts of disc type or with cam profile.
Spring unloaded
Rubber blocking device
Remove through spring coils with the rear axle being in unloaded condition."

Even without that red sticker: a BMW M dealership is supposed to know (even from experience) the BMW M shipping practices. Techs who perform pre-delivery inspection (PDI) are not supposed to be first-day vacation jobs folks who have never seen any shipped BMW M arriving at a BMW M dealership. And should that happen to be the case, they are supposed to be trained/briefed about PDI + there's still the red sticker to inform them. If they don't understand, they got to inquire.

Down at BMW M they must shake their heads in disbelief: they walk the extra mile to affix a big red warning sticker on the window, and still the dealership manages to ignore it.

It's like those "Objects in mirror are closer than they appear" stickers on side mirrors. Over here in Europe we don't have those and simply cannot fathom why US drivers need that kind of pampering. "Expensive product liability lawsuits" and "US claim culture" is undoubtedly the answer. If, over here in Europe, you blame a car manufacturer to have 'failed' to warn you with a sticker that the approaching car in the side mirror was closer than it appeared, and that this alleged 'information duty negligence' caused the accident, the judge will almost certainly throw that claim out of court and may possibly even award damages to the car manufacturer for frivolous claim. US citizens are as smart as European ones, but 'common sense' is often presented by some US litigators as if it were not so 'common', with the sole purpose to hunt for damages.

[Bt12]

Does the shipping blocks really add height or would it act as a bumper stop? So you wouldn’t really know it’s there

[cenz422]

Originally Posted by ZPrime

PCD will be fine, the techs there are employed by BMW and know their shit.

It's the lower-volume dealerships that don't see a lot of M cars where I'd expect this kind of thing to be missed. (Do the non-M cars have these?)

Funny you say this, because the dealership i took delivery from delivered at least 20 M2s for 2017

[cenz422]

Originally Posted by Bt12

Does the shipping blocks really add height or would it act as a bumper stop? So you wouldn’t really know it’s there

Good question. from what i found is they do not add height, but cut the travel when driving which was confirmed because mine were slightly crushed when removing.

[//M]

Originally Posted by ZPrime

PCD will be fine, the techs there are employed by BMW and know their shit.

It's the lower-volume dealerships that don't see a lot of M cars where I'd expect this kind of thing to be missed. (Do the non-M cars have these?)

A M-sport 3 series has them, with that sticker.

I think everything that's not an SUV has them probably. I can't believe a dealer would forget to take these out when they do so many.

[champignon]

Originally Posted by Artemis

It's like those "Objects in mirror are closer than they appear" stickers on side mirrors. Over here in Europe we don't have those and simply cannot fathom why US drivers need that kind of pampering. "Expensive product liability lawsuits" and "US claim culture" is undoubtedly the answer.

A lot of Europeans (probably not including you) believe that average people in the USA must be really stupid, in part, because of this sort of thing. In fact, those engravings/printings on the mirrors are required by law:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object...an_they_appear

I bet that many Americans, given the option, would order cars that did not have these distracting markings on the side view mirrors.

A couple of decades ago I had dinner with the CEO of a high end mechanical watch manufacturing company in Germany; I was a guest with several others at the table at a 1 Star Michelin restaurant in Dresden. At some point during the dinner, this gentleman (actually was a very nice man) said that when educated Germans want to call someone "stupid," they often say he or she is "an American."

During this dinner, this CEO rejected a perfectly good bottle of white Burgundy because it didn't taste like he thought it would. That's actually not the sign of an "educated person" in my view; you reject a bottle of wine in a restaurant because it is BAD, not because you didn't know enough about what you were ordering so you ordered the wrong thing.

One of life's little ironies :-)

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by cenz422

Good question. from what i found is they do not add height, but cut the travel when driving which was confirmed because mine were slightly crushed when removing.

They clearly does add height

Like it's got xDrive lol

[horsepower_and_hounds]

When you pick up you car there is a pre-delivery check list that has a spot verifying shipping blocks were removed "remove shipping spacers if equipped"

[Bt12]

Man that’s just lazy of some of the dealers... I only didn’t have this issue because I had M Perf coilovers installed pre delivery! But man. I’d be pissed if I had those shipping blocks on

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by cenz422

Funny you say this, because the dealership i took delivery from delivered at least 20 M2s for 2017

But you are likely the one who got the most ground clearance and harshest ride over bumps (those shipping blocks + the upper wheel well take quite a beating when you hit potholes and speed bumps). Your OEM springs never got the chance to fully flex as the shipping blocks impeded that (obstacle). As if you walk around with a piece of wood around your legs inside your pants: you can walk and slightly bend, but never kneel when you jump onto a surface.