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      03-14-2018, 03:53 AM   #23
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After dropping it whether springs, HAS kit or coil overs an alignment is a must to bring the numbers back in close to factory spec and feel. From there you dial it for what your trying to get out of it
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      03-14-2018, 04:11 AM   #24
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After dropping it whether springs, HAS kit or coil overs an alignment is a must to bring the numbers back in close to factory spec and feel. From there you dial it for what your trying to get out of it
Almost a year since I got my alignment after I lowered with eibach springs. So glad this solved the issue. Car is now back to how confidence inspiring it is. It's safe to say it's back on rails.
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After dropping it whether springs, HAS kit or coil overs an alignment is a must to bring the numbers back in close to factory spec and feel. From there you dial it for what your trying to get out of it
Almost a year since I got my alignment after I lowered with eibach springs. So glad this solved the issue. Car is now back to how confidence inspiring it is. It's safe to say it's back on rails.
I bet, I did mine after 500mi. Couldn't stand the way it felt and I only went down just less than an inch
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      08-23-2019, 02:57 PM   #26
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Mine is doing this, driving to spain on sunday so not ideal but hopefully get it booked in out there to sort. Whats the issue, is it anything dangerous?
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      08-26-2019, 01:55 PM   #27
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At first I thought it was my suspension but it seems like it's not - it's more of a steering thing. Now that I think about it the noise I hear is when I'm turning especially at low speeds.
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So I took my car into the dealer and mentioned the wheel shim TSB. They reproduced the clicking noise while turning, but they stated it is "normal for Michelin Pilot Super Sport Tires. Referened SIB: 36 02 19 which describes normal operation of sticky summer tires at high steering angle". Anyone have access to this other TSB to provide the full context? This seems like a BS diagnosis to me.
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      09-18-2020, 04:48 PM   #29
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I have this same problem , i get a "ping" when turning at low speeds...surprised so many people have this issue and not much info on what it could be... i have read about it being bearings , upper suspension mounts , even loose sway bars...but nothing definitive.
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      09-14-2021, 11:29 AM   #30
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This fixed it. I did it today.



Even bmw dealership couldn't fix
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      09-14-2021, 12:24 PM   #31
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I had the same issue and saw this video. I did mostly the same things except bending the bracket. I used new bolts and torqued to spec. No noise so far...
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      09-17-2021, 09:06 AM   #32
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Is this the noise any of you were experiencing?





I have done the new pinch bolt method with grease, bent the clip back and also tried friction plates inbetween the hub and brake disc. It always comes back within a few days, it's almost like every time I lift the car in the air it relaxes something until it settles a few days later
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Would that be the same noise as this, at the 07:40 mark?
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      10-06-2021, 07:19 PM   #34
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Would that be the same noise as this, at the 07:40 mark?
It's my understanding that the clicks sound the same, but there are different actions that produce them, and different sources of the click, which makes things very weird.

My car, for example, doesn't produce the sound unless I'm cornering hard to the right, or entering a driveway. It's always on the driver's side as well.
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I note that he torqued the pinch bolt down to 55 ft lbs.

Two things I would like to discuss:

1. As the pinch bolt is now fully wet because of the anti-seize, shouldn't a different torque value apply, as the factory torque value is based on a dry bolt thread?

2. Shouldn't the pinch bolt and fastener be replaced when removed (as I understand they're a one-time use set)?
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1. As the pinch bolt is now fully wet because of the anti-seize, shouldn't a different torque value apply, as the factory torque value is based on a dry bolt thread?

2. Shouldn't the pinch bolt and fastener be replaced when removed (as I understand they're a one-time use set)?
Yes, and yes.

The YouTuber in this video is a super cool guy, but not known for being a stickler with such things.
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Yes, and yes.

The YouTuber in this video is a super cool guy, but not known for being a stickler with such things.
Thanks for the quick reply. I'm glad I bought new fasteners and pinch bolts then. I'm curious about what torque value I should now use, as I'm planning on trying this out too. Any ideas?

Finally, shouldn't the pinch bolt and fasteners be torqued under load, and if so, how would you be able to do that, as you can't really get a torque wrench in there with the wheel on I presume?
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      10-13-2021, 06:12 PM   #38
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Thanks for the quick reply. I'm glad I bought new fasteners and pinch bolts then. I'm curious about what torque value I should now use, as I'm planning on trying this out too. Any ideas?

Finally, shouldn't the pinch bolt and fasteners be torqued under load, and if so, how would you be able to do that, as you can't really get a torque wrench in there with the wheel on I presume?
No idea on the torque value, but they don't have to be torqued under load, that part I'm sure of.
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No idea on the torque value, but they don't have to be torqued under load, that part I'm sure of.
Okay thanks, how come they shouldn't be torqued under load then? Several comments claim otherwise.
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Okay thanks, how come they shouldn't be torqued under load then? Several comments claim otherwise.
It's the rear suspension that has to be torqued under load. I've not seen a single video of anyone doing the front suspension under load. This is a simple TTY bolt.
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No idea on the torque value, but they don't have to be torqued under load, that part I'm sure of.
I have checked with 2 separate BMW dealers in my area and both told me the torque value (dry) for the pinch bolts should be 56NM (i.e. 41 ft-lbs). The guy in the video seems to be adamant that it is 75NM (i.e. 55 ft-lbs). I wonder what I should then torque the pinch bolts with, considering I'll put anti-seize on it.
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It's the rear suspension that has to be torqued under load. I've not seen a single video of anyone doing the front suspension under load. This is a simple TTY bolt.
You're right. The dealerships told me it does not have to be torqued under load.
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I have checked with 2 separate BMW dealers in my area and both told me the torque value (dry) for the pinch bolts should be 56NM (i.e. 41 ft-lbs). The guy in the video seems to be adamant that it is 75NM (i.e. 55 ft-lbs). I wonder what I should then torque the pinch bolts with, considering I'll put anti-seize on it.
The correct torque is 56NM for sure, the guy in the video is wrong. I mention this every time I see this video.

Did a quick google search, looks like the new torque spec should be 42NM.
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The correct torque is 56NM for sure, the guy in the video is wrong. I mention this every time I see this video.

Did a quick google search, looks like the new torque spec should be 42NM.
Interesting stuff, I have found the same in the meantime. I wonder if anti-seize would be the best way to lube up these pinchbolts, would silicon grease or ceramic grease work too, you think?
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