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      07-27-2017, 08:00 PM   #1
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Oil change before recommended intervals

Many of us worry about recommended oil change intervals, and there are already threads with the usual opinions out there. I am still not decided as I am at 500 miles dealing with the break-in boring period. But in a few thousands miles, if I decide to join the "I will change it sooner" group I thought about doing it sooner and send it to analysis based on one experience I had with my e92 M3 (now gone).

BlackRock did the Oil Analysis of the M3 when the oil was at 5K miles. I was changing it every 5K since I tracked the car, and I did the analysis because I wanted to keep an eye on any premature signs of rod bearing problems. The fact is Blackrock told me the oil was still within specs at 5K, and suggested I increase the intervals to 7500 miles. I sold the car before that, so I end up not knowing if at 7.5K the oil would still be within specs and they would suggest another bump in the change interval. but as an idea for who is worrying how about changing the M2 oil before the recommended interval, why not change at 7.5K then send it to analysis? I am far from being an expert, so am I missing something? Any other reason to change it if the oil stills within specs?

By the way, if someone do it please share the results!
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Me as a licensed BMW tech - I change my Engine oil Every 5000kms on my M235. One reason is Yes having easy access to it at the dealer is nice - filter my cost is something like $11 and basically Free oil. I do believe some of the problems with the Camshafts, Vanos Solenoids and Eccentric shafts is apart of the super high oil change intervals from BMW.

If you decide to Change ur oil sooner just buy the Oil and Filter from BMW IMO and you cant go wrong. Just dont reset the CBS oil service light. And take it in for ur warranty oil services when its due. That if you ever have an issue with the engine - lets say it explodes.. you and BMW will have all your records showing, yup oil changes were done on time.

Also got to remember - the Oil you had in the M3 was completely different Weight and different additives as well.
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Me as a licensed BMW tech - I change my Engine oil Every 5000kms on my M235. One reason is Yes having easy access to it at the dealer is nice - filter my cost is something like $11 and basically Free oil. I do believe some of the problems with the Camshafts, Vanos Solenoids and Eccentric shafts is apart of the super high oil change intervals from BMW.

If you decide to Change ur oil sooner just buy the Oil and Filter from BMW IMO and you cant go wrong. Just dont reset the CBS oil service light. And take it in for ur warranty oil services when its due. That if you ever have an issue with the engine - lets say it explodes.. you and BMW will have all your records showing, yup oil changes were done on time.

Also got to remember - the Oil you had in the M3 was completely different Weight and different additives as well.
Thanks Taunto. wow, 5K Km is just a bit over 3K miles. That's a pampered engine
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For $11 bucks and short bit of my time.. Why the hell not lol
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For $11 bucks and short bit of my time.. Why the hell not lol
lucky bastard. By the way are you using 5w30 or 0w30?
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      08-05-2017, 01:57 AM   #6
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For $11 bucks and short bit of my time.. Why the hell not lol
This is off topic but maybe you would know. Some have been told by BMW that after the 1200 mile run in service on the M2 that some more power is unlocked (overboost?). Others have been told that's not true. Others have said true for some of the other M cars, just not M2. So would you know if after the run in service on the M2 if it gains any performance?
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On the M2 I have been told that launch control comes into effect along with the over boost option.

on the other M cars with a S engine a small amount of power and launch control becomes active.

I've only done a couple M2 run in services and I just check to make sure the launch control message comes up on the cluster. I don't actually launch customer cars...i can't speak for every other tech tho
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For $11 bucks and short bit of my time.. Why the hell not lol
lucky bastard. By the way are you using 5w30 or 0w30?
I use 5w30. depending on my situation if I half to drive the car in the winter I will switch to 0w30. didn't drive it last winter
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Many of us worry about recommended oil change intervals, and there are already threads with the usual opinions out there. I am still not decided as I am at 500 miles dealing with the break-in boring period. But in a few thousands miles, if I decide to join the "I will change it sooner" group I thought about doing it sooner and send it to analysis based on one experience I had with my e92 M3 (now gone).

BlackRock did the Oil Analysis of the M3 when the oil was at 5K miles. I was changing it every 5K since I tracked the car, and I did the analysis because I wanted to keep an eye on any premature signs of rod bearing problems. The fact is Blackrock told me the oil was still within specs at 5K, and suggested I increase the intervals to 7500 miles. I sold the car before that, so I end up not knowing if at 7.5K the oil would still be within specs and they would suggest another bump in the change interval. but as an idea for who is worrying how about changing the M2 oil before the recommended interval, why not change at 7.5K then send it to analysis? I am far from being an expert, so am I missing something? Any other reason to change it if the oil stills within specs?

By the way, if someone do it please share the results!
From the US motoring site Edmunds - https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/tip...-your-oil.html

Id say you are worried about nothing given modern synthetic oils and the tech involved. Enjoy your M2 and do not waste your funds. There is too much over -thinking on this subject of oil and early changes.
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From the US motoring site Edmunds - https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/tip...-your-oil.html

Id say you are worried about nothing given modern synthetic oils and the tech involved. Enjoy your M2 and do not waste your funds. There is too much over -thinking on this subject of oil and early changes.
I understand the cheap insurance thinking to just play safe, But edmunds has a point. This is also what Blackstone lab recommended to me.
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The M2, F87, how many quarts of oil and what is recommended (Mobil 1, Castrol, or BMW...)?
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The M2, F87, how many quarts of oil and what is recommended (Mobil 1, Castrol, or BMW...)?
I haven't changed it yet, I am still breaking in. Regarding changing sooner or at recommended miles still undecided.
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doing it sooner and send it to analysis
What do you mean exactly by sending it to analysis ? Where / why / how ?
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doing it sooner and send it to analysis
What do you mean exactly by sending it to analysis ? Where / why / how ?
Blackstone labs does oil analysis (other companies do as well). I asked for a free kit which they sent to me. Then I got a sample of the oil and sent it to them. They sent me back a report (which I posted in this thread). In this particular example the oil I changed sooner then recommended was still within specs, so in theory I could have run at least another 2K miles with it.
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Interesting!
Anyone knows about an equivalent lab in EU ?
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When I received my M2 I will change the engine oil between 3-4k miles. This would be once a year oil change.
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Has anyone sent in a sample to Blackstone yet? I'm looking to get one done when I do a preventative oil change before she's put away this winter (~4800 mi on the clock). Also getting different answers from dealers about price of service (from standard $80 oil change to the "delux M $250" oil change) and what oil they'd put in the car. Seems like some haven't done any changes on the M2 and that's making me more nervous than just doing it myself...
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TropicalM you did the most correct thing.

I can't believe this 5k oil change myth is still around in 2017.
Instead of wasting time and money on constant oil changes, send oil to the lab, if withing spec, increase interval.
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Oil is cheap, motors are not. Better oils last longer... Crappier oils could last decent on street driving, but with heavy use it'll break down quite quickly.

I personally will be running Motul 5W-40 during track season, and flush with 0W-30 BMW whenever its due.
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Has anyone sent in a sample to Blackstone yet? I'm looking to get one done when I do a preventative oil change before she's put away this winter (~4800 mi on the clock). Also getting different answers from dealers about price of service (from standard $80 oil change to the "delux M $250" oil change) and what oil they'd put in the car. Seems like some haven't done any changes on the M2 and that's making me more nervous than just doing it myself...
Yes, I had my oil tested by Blackstone. I changed at 1200, 5000 and 10,000 with a sample from the last change sent in. All looks good so I'm going to try 7000 mile intervals. I do track the car, six days so far this year. I'm going to stick with 5w30 until I can get a good oil temp measurement.
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Just did pre-hibernation oil change (~5,500 mi since break-in) and took sample. Sending to Blackstone and fingers crossed I get a healthy report card
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Just did pre-hibernation oil change (~5,500 mi since break-in) and took sample. Sending to Blackstone and fingers crossed I get a healthy report card
Nice, hope it comes back fine. I would appreciate if you can share the results.
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