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      04-15-2018, 06:25 AM   #1849
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It seems like BMW is working on other projects right now. After seeing how the M2 Competition came out to be, it seems like there is a lot of scope to actually make something really hardcore. I think BMW will not just let that go. I hope they do not.
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M2 GTS/CSL (whatever the name will be) made another step forward in its movement towards production just last month. (Of course, I'm not going to say what that step was.) So personally I'm optimistic.
Repost: BMWBlog interview with BMW M boss Frank Van Meel at the 2017 Detroit Auto Show (January 2017) (01:18 to 03:13):
"For us the M4 GTS is and was a halo car which helped M a lot regarding communication in 2016. The cars were sold out immediately. What was more important for us was that this car, driving 07m28s on the Nürburgring, is within the super sports car league, even though it is a series production car building its base. But it's typically what M stands for to bring that motorsports properties into a car that can also be used on everyday roads. And it also strengthened the performance of the M3/M4 as the base cars that were behind that. And we are really happy with that car and we still have a lot of demand even though it's already sold out for a long time. But there are many people saying «Please make another special car or more special cars». And we're going to react to these demands and bring more special cars in the future. Well, the M2 has exceeded everyone's expectations. The customer demand has been so big that we're still working on increasing our production volumes to fulfill our customer needs, but we plan to get it in balance again in the year 2017 so that we get more cars available for our customers. We do plan to continue this tradition of making special models, especially the fact that the demand for competition packages was/is so high with M3/M4 is for us a signal to continue this in the future with more models, as well as the fact that the M4 GTS was sold out immediately which also had a long tradition with M3 special models. But we're planning to do that more often, not only to wait 5 to 7 years, but to bring more special models on a shorter time base."
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      04-17-2018, 06:00 PM   #1850
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As the BMW M2 Competition has been officially launched (see here), we can now focus in this thread on the possible hardcore M2 variant (2019/2020).
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M2 CSL or GTS speculations

Now with the official release of M2 competition as only production model for 2019, I wouldn't be surprised towards the end of the f87 production , a very limited run of ultimate F87 is on drawingboard somewhere in Germany already.


Lets the fun begin. I'll start first

1. Significant use of carbon fiber material for weight reduction (CF roof,hood,bits....)
2. Track ready ( rear seat removed with roll cage, stereo and ac removal as an option)
3. S55 reworked, give it close to 450Hp and 440lb ft torque)
4. Massive cosmetic enhancement (CF spoiler, reworked grille....)
5. Improved handling thru suspension enhancement and more aerodynamics.


In conclusion, a true F87 weights somewhere close to 3200lbs with 450+Hp and track ready setups.


0 to 60 DCT 3.3 secs
MSRP close to 100k
870 total built for 1 year production

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Now with the official release of M2 competition as only production model for 2019, I wouldn't be surprised towards the end of the f87 production , a very limited run of ultimate F87 is on drawingboard somewhere in Germany.


Lets the fun begin. I'll start first

1. Significant use carbon fiber material for weight reduction (CF roof,hood,bits....)
2. Track ready ( rear seat removed with roll cage, stereo and ac removal as an option)
3. S55 reworked, give it close to 450Hp and 440lb ft torque)
4. Massive cosmetic enhancement (CF spoiler, reworked grille....)
5. Improved handling thru suspension enhancement and more aerodynamics.


In conclusion, a true F87 weights somewhere close to 3200lbs with 450+Hp and track ready setups.


0 to 60 DCT 3.4 secs
MSRP close to 100k
870 total built for 1 year production

Fucking want. Although I do want a backseats ala E46 M3 CSL style.

Make sure it has the water cooling!
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Keep the power under the m4 cs so the manual tranny can handle it!
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Meanwhile in Germany: someone (who happened to be also well-informed about the M2 Competition) heard through the grapevine very recently that another BMW M2 variant is expected for Summer 2019 (source: here).

Please no convertible, but something more spicy and with a lower 'body mass index' than the M2 Competition.
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Found this in Facebook.
Is this true? Could it be? The fabled CSL?!
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Found this in Facebook today.
Gatte you've been caught..


new hood, new fenders, new front bumper, new splitter.... rear wing... new ROOF.... AWW shit.. some M2 Comp owners might be upset a year from now.
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Camo on the roof and hood = CF?
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Camo on the roof and hood = CF?
the hood looks similar to the M4 GTS version .
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As the BMW M2 Competition has been officially launched (see here), we can now focus in this thread on the possible hardcore M2 variant (2019/2020).
please remove " M2 Competition " from the title..
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Not gonna happen.... Next please

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you and a couple of other forum guys gonna have to have a throwdown..

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Meanwhile in Germany: someone (who happened to be also well-informed about the M2 Competition) heard through the grapevine very recently that another BMW M2 variant is expected for Summer 2019 (source: here).

Please no convertible, but something more spicy and with a lower 'body mass index' than the M2 Competition.

and this from @gatte
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As of 2 days ago, the M2 CSL model that is being referred to here does still exist with the exception that the guys who worked on that car were referring to it as the GTS and not CSL.

There was also a version that was more hardcore than the Competition but closer to the Competition than a GTS. This was the CS. I think the CS and Competition mules were actually 2 different cars. According to what I had heard a long time ago and I will try to quote exact words as best as I can remember:
"The M2 Competition is just an M2 with a different engine. They worked on the CS a lot more than the M2 Competition"

The name here I think is not important. What is important is that the car (GTS/CSL) has not seen any progress or based on what I was told even moved in the last few months. Cars that are bound to be scrapped or re-purposed are usually not housed in the same building as where this car currently resides.

This car is the reason why I do not want to post the M2 Competition video.

It seems like BMW is working on other projects right now. After seeing how the M2 Competition came out to be, it seems like there is a lot of scope to actually make something really hardcore. I think BMW will not just let that go. I hope they do not.

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please remove " M2 Competition " from the title..
Done.
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M3 Adjuster, also:
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It seems like BMW is working on other projects right now. After seeing how the M2 Competition came out to be, it seems like there is a lot of scope to actually make something really hardcore. I think BMW will not just let that go. I hope they do not.
M2 GTS/CSL (whatever the name will be) made another step forward in its movement towards production just last month. (Of course, I'm not going to say what that step was.) So personally I'm optimistic.
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Not gonna happen.... Next please
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OK, that was on record last month.

But what about off-record now.

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This car will be DCT only right?
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OK, that was on record last month.

But what about off-record now.

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This is what I came for, the M2 CSL/GTS.

If this is true, I'll sell of my current M2 for this and I'll daily this to hell and back.

Dream garage will almost come to fruition.

BMW CSL model: Check
Porsche GTX model: Check

Just waiting on a Black Series/R Mercedes and the trifecta will be complete
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Look closer: camouflage on interesting spots of that car.

But then again, could be an old picture or a car that's still around but no longer developed.
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