Drag Race: BMW M2 vs Mercedes A45 AMG

atxsk8r · 05-03-2016, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by M3 Number 86

who lives a quarter mile at a time?

mPlasticDesign · 05-03-2016, 10:57 PM

Anybody else notice the M2 wheels start to spin and even begin to hook up before the AMG wheels even starts to rotate? Seems the M2 actually had a decent launch, quite quick reaction time. I think if this test was done repeatedly, 10 or more runs, the AMG would be more easily reproducible. Yes, even in less wet conditions. I'd still take the rear wheel drive config any day tho.

///M-pressed · 05-03-2016, 11:17 PM

0-1000m race would have been interesting. The 4cylinder AMG would die off and the 6cylinder in the BMW would pull ahead.

I'd say this was to be expected. That AMG is a brute off the line.

scrammer · 05-04-2016, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrippy

Turbo 4 Vs. Turbo 6. Unless there is Astroglyde on the ground it's wet and.....? So I am still bummed about this. I'm not ripping on either car just let down by this. I prefer BMW to Mercedes.

The AMG is 280KW which is 375HP so they should be very close … remember that they make all those HPs from only 2 litres - not bad output!
Also, since when is life about 1/4 mile times - buy the car you like - drive it - enjoy it!

ORIGIN M. · 05-04-2016, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by atxsk8r

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Originally Posted by M3 Number 86

who lives a quarter mile at a time?

Inablur · 05-04-2016, 03:27 AM

Im surprised how people are ranting about an AWD contender winning a race in the damp/wet. That is to be expected as simple mechanics came into play here. People should be praising the M2 for doing so darn well in the wet. I am really beginning to respect the little ///M.

I actually want one now!

OrangeCrush · 05-04-2016, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark's M

Really? Have our on-ramps in North America changed to allow 0-100 mph acceleration runs to get up to speed? C'mon, 99.99% of M owners (and I'm one of them and as biased as the rest) can only use just so much of their cars' potential in daily driving environments. So accelerating up to (insert a somewhat legal speed limit here, ie 60/65/70 mph) is extremely relevant in terms of the time it takes. And aside from bragging rights, the major mags (all of them) use 0-60 times as a part of their testing. Your comment suites the term "useless" much more than the relatively stellar wet performance of a RWD M car vs a FWD-based, pseudo AWD AMG that happens to rank amongst the ugliest cars ever produced. But that's a subjective comment lol, much like yours? 0-60 times are quite the opposite.

To be fair, an on ramp isn't a good example of 0-60. It would be more equivalent to a roll race. 30-80mph maybe?

OrangeCrush · 05-04-2016, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrippy

Turbo 4 Vs. Turbo 6. Unless there is Astroglyde on the ground it's wet and.....? So I am still bummed about this. I'm not ripping on either car just let down by this. I prefer BMW to Mercedes.

What?

barzul · 05-04-2016, 05:54 AM

Wet track + RWD but still manage to keep the pace with those a45, M2 win this comparison

Powerslide · 05-04-2016, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MCarChris

welcome to a new M car launch, happened with the M3/4 and will forever, its 'clever' to bash a new M of course.

Exactly - stack the deck against the M and then ridicule it when it loses by the slightest of margins...

DJKapeesh · 05-04-2016, 08:01 AM

Do that 100 times, you wont get the same winner 3 times in a row I bet

M3 Number 86 · 05-04-2016, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by red-sauerkraut

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Originally Posted by atxsk8r

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Originally Posted by M3 Number 86

who lives a quarter mile at a time?

I knew these were going to come up. But no I don't. I'm more like one lap at a time lol

kerrsy44 · 05-04-2016, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by W///

M2 would have won if it had M mirrors.

Hahahahaha!!!

Jono2112 · 05-04-2016, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rallybull

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Originally Posted by Jono2112

Just one run? Best of three? Best of five? Wait for a dry track?

It was a best of 5. They just posted one, the one where the amg actually won.

That's hilarious! Maybe they waited for it to rain too?

desertfox73 · 05-04-2016, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Nflight97

That orange peel at 1:12. Disappointing.

The first shot of the emblem on the tailgate, too. Hard to believe in many ways...

I love BMW, but in my mind the orange peel factor is really unacceptable.

DCG · 05-04-2016, 10:56 AM

A total tie with regards to the finish line. I still want a BMW M4 with rear bias xDrive!

Nine Lives · 05-04-2016, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Inablur

Im surprised how people are ranting about an AWD contender winning a race in the damp/wet. That is to be expected as simple mechanics came into play here. People should be praising the M2 for doing so darn well in the wet. I am really beginning to respect the little ///M.

I actually want one now!

Agreed,

I think there's an irony to the video, in which the M2 did so well as it did against a similar powered awd car and just goes to show how good it is.

M3 Number 86 · 05-04-2016, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DCG

A total tie with regards to the finish line. I still want a BMW M4 with rear bias xDrive!

Yuck.

technik330 · 05-04-2016, 01:59 PM

... people favoring the M2 over the A45 on a BMW forum? Crazy.

I'll never grasp why people couldn't simply go: cool, it's a driver's race at the least and move on.

junotramm · 05-04-2016, 04:46 PM

another ethical drag race.

bmwmnation · 05-04-2016, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexCirc

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Originally Posted by dd1981

Yup, let's do this test in the wet shit weather, AWD VS RWD and post it on YouTube for everyone to see. Why not do it in snow too for fuck sake!

Seriously...

Lol

Karmic Man · 05-04-2016, 07:56 PM

No one mentioned anything about the drivetrain loss of RWD vs AWD.

The higher the speed, the more advantageous RWD drivetrain has due to lesser moving components (less power loss) and thus more power to the wheels.

Given similar power, it is expected that the M2 will eventually overtake the A45 at higher speed unless its aerodynamic drag is much worst off.

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///M-pressed Lieutenant 276 Rep 417 Posts Drives: E46 M3, F82 M4 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sydney & Melbourne Australia iTrader: (0)	0-1000m race would have been interesting. The 4cylinder AMG would die off and the 6cylinder in the BMW would pull ahead. I'd say this was to be expected. That AMG is a brute off the line. __________________ F82 M4 \| 6-speed manual \| PP performance Stage 2 tune \| Re-valved Bilstein B16s \| VRSF midpipe \| OEM CS front splitter \| OEM GTS hood \| OEM M-performance rear diffuser\| Evolve tuning catless downpipes \| 310rwkw (415rwhp)
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Inablur Private First Class 163 Rep 176 Posts Drives: Silber Bimmer Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Johannesburg iTrader: (0)	Im surprised how people are ranting about an AWD contender winning a race in the damp/wet. That is to be expected as simple mechanics came into play here. People should be praising the M2 for doing so darn well in the wet. I am really beginning to respect the little ///M. I actually want one now!
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barzul Private First Class 135 Rep 135 Posts Drives: F30 Black Saphire Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Indonesia iTrader: (0) Garage List 2016 BMW 320i [10.00]	Wet track + RWD but still manage to keep the pace with those a45, M2 win this comparison __________________ F30 LCI Black Sapphire
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DJKapeesh Lieutenant 311 Rep 469 Posts Drives: 11' 135i, 13' 911 C2S, 10' X5D Join Date: May 2011 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (1)	Do that 100 times, you wont get the same winner 3 times in a row I bet
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DCG REBEL 783 Rep 1,279 Posts Drives: BMW X4 Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: New York iTrader: (0)	A total tie with regards to the finish line. I still want a BMW M4 with rear bias xDrive!
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technik330 Captain 289 Rep 666 Posts Drives: STi Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Orange County iTrader: (0)	... people favoring the M2 over the A45 on a BMW forum? Crazy. I'll never grasp why people couldn't simply go: cool, it's a driver's race at the least and move on. __________________ Technik 330 Past Projects: '05 BMW 330Ci ZHP - Technik's ZHP Sold '07 Subaru STI - Sold '18 Subaru STi Type RA #350 '19 Honda Civic Type R #31191
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Karmic Man Lieutenant Colonel 1996 Rep 1,759 Posts Drives: M2C Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: World iTrader: (0)	No one mentioned anything about the drivetrain loss of RWD vs AWD. The higher the speed, the more advantageous RWD drivetrain has due to lesser moving components (less power loss) and thus more power to the wheels. Given similar power, it is expected that the M2 will eventually overtake the A45 at higher speed unless its aerodynamic drag is much worst off.
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