[Bluenose-2er]

Originally Posted by Spirit of Universe

1M is absolute love story for 99% of owners.
Car is so distinctive that current M4, which is excellent sport and street racer usually pales when 1M approaches.
I believe that 1M has true genetics of real compact, bullish and unique image that is not case with M2.
Yes, M2 is nicer car, but with less character.
1M is rarity beast, I still hunt for one and they ar expensive. It is collector car.
I know several owners and most of them did few tweaks that made 1M so crazy fast, that it is hard to believe.
For sure M2 tuners will offer similar stuff for M2 and car will evolve into real beast with time. Still, it will not have aura of 1M.
Give me brand new 1M now, I would pick it instead of 2M without second of thinking.
1M is one of five iconic BMW cars ever produced in their history. It can be fine tuned to perfection and its visual elements are timeless.
I am vet happy to see M2, it is probably more of sport coupe than M4.
If I would consider buying new car, M2 would be my first pick. After 1M.

Which is better? The answer: Yes! ... No!.... Maybe!

One of my biggest recent regrets is chickening out on the 1M and buying a 135i. I love my 1er, but there is always this little regret at the back of my mind that I should have taken the plunge.

To be honest, if I had gone for the 1M back then, I probably would not be buying an M2 this year - my 1M would have ~40K on it and be good for another 5 years. But since I didn't... I would much prefer a new M2 over a used 1M.

Comparing the looks should be easy, but it is apples to oranges... or should I say blueberries to oranges? The 1M looks more like a tuner (a very nice looking tuner), while the M2 is more refined - sleek, low and aggressive looking. I love the looks of both... though I haven't seen the M2 IRL yet.

Now the hard choice, do I sell my 135i when my M2 ship comes in? Or turn it into a tuner with that nice N54 engine?

[Artemis]

E82 1M (2011):

• manufactured at BMW Leipzig factory
• limited production (1 year - 6309 cars) - limited availability - no variants - sold new at higher than MSRP by some US dealers - higher than usual resale value
• introduced to the public at Detroit Motor Show (January 2011)
• initial main platform for conception: BMW 135i
• 3 body colors (AW, BSM, VO [launch color])
• 1 interior color (black leather [Boston Schwarz] with Kyalami Orange accent stitching)
• technically upgraded N-series engine (N54)
• 340hp [metric]
• 500Nm torque (450+50Nm overboost)
• E9X M3 underpinnings (track/suspension/brakes)
• E9X M3 ZCP wheels (359M - 19")
• 6-speed manual transmission only - no rev-matching (no M-DCT available)
• 4 seats
• EU5 emissions rating
• sport mode ("M" button on steering wheel)
• MDM + DSC OFF
• no CF roof
• no powerdome
• no vented fenders
• no one-piece front seats
• no CF driveshaft
• no adaptive shocks
• no lighted gear shift knob
• no Head-Up Display option
• no front Park Distance Control
• no front fog lights
• no BMW Individual
• Alcantara interior trim and no CF interior trim
• V-max limited
• hydraulic steering (no Electric Power Steering)
• twin-stalk side mirrors (E9X M3)
• no Active Sound Design
• non-sliding armrest
• no vertical reflectors on the rear bumper
• limited options (not including glass sliding roof, Driving Assistant, Speed Limit Info, rear view camera, Concierge Services and heated steering wheel)

F87 M2 base version (2016):

• manufactured at BMW Leipzig factory
• no limited production - temporary limited availability - variants possible (M2 CS rumored for MY2018) - sold new at higher than MSRP by some US dealers - resale value currently unknown
• introduced to the public at Detroit Motor Show (January 2016)
• initial main platform for conception: BMW M235i
• 4 body colors (AW, BSM, MG and LBB [launch color])
• 1 interior color (black leather [Dakota Schwarz] with Polar Blue accent stitching)
• technically upgraded N-series engine (N55)
• 370hp [metric]
• 500Nm torque (465+35Nm overboost)
• M4 underpinnings (track/suspension/brakes)
• optional M3/M4 wheels (437M - 19")
• 6-speed manual transmission with rev-matching + M-DCT optionally available
• 4 seats
• EU6 emissions rating
• sport mode ("Sport" button next to gearbox)
• MDM ("Sport+") + DSC OFF ("DSC OFF")
• no CF roof
• no powerdome
• no vented fenders
• no one-piece front seats
• no CF driveshaft
• no adaptive shocks
• no lighted gear shift knob
• no Head-Up Display option
• no front Park Distance Control
• no front fog lights
• no BMW Individual
• open-pore CF interior trim and limited interior Alcantara trim
• V-max limited but optionally delimited ("M Driver's Package")
• Electric Power Steering (no hydraulic steering)
• no twin-stalk side mirrors (M235i)
• Active Sound Design
• sliding armrest
• vertical reflectors on the rear bumper
• limited options (including glass sliding roof [some regions], Driving Assistant, Speed Limit Info, rear view camera, Concierge Services and heated steering wheel)

Conclusion: Variation sur le même thème ? Variation sur la même ///M !

[Benzima]

Drove my younger brother's 1M today. Wow! This car is so solid. Can't wait to get my M2!

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Benzima

Drove my younger brother's 1M today. Wow! This car is so solid. Can't wait to get my M2!

[Holbzz]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Pounce !!

10 days after your response, i took a flight to Oslo to pick up the car.
Got picked up at the airport by the dealier in a acid green M4.

Best decision in my life ever!

Never thought i could fall in love with a car, but i was wrong.

I think i would rather sell my wife, than to part with the 1M.
No M2 envy at all

[Karmic Man]

BimmerFile comparison

http://www.bimmerfile.com/2016/05/04...vs-the-bmw-1m/

[OrangeCrush]

Originally Posted by Karmic Man

BimmerFile comparison

http://www.bimmerfile.com/2016/05/04...vs-the-bmw-1m/

Why does everyone say the interior CF is stamped plastic. When you look closely at it, it's clear that it isn't. LOL.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Karmic Man

BimmerFile comparison

http://www.bimmerfile.com/2016/05/04...vs-the-bmw-1m/

Wow. they pretty much nailed it. It's actually a bit of a shame that most BMW M owners won't likely get a chance to drive a 1M.. at least the M2 gets them close

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by OrangeCrush

Why does everyone say the interior CF is stamped plastic. When you look closely at it, it's clear that it isn't. LOL.

Apparently BMW got them all used to M4 and M3 CF with clear over the top of it that they forgot what the CF under actually is..

[eeghie]

Originally Posted by Karmic Man

BimmerFile comparison

http://www.bimmerfile.com/2016/05/04...vs-the-bmw-1m/

Bimmerfile review:
"The M2’s steering feedback and feel is good. And that’s not meant to be faint praise. It’s truly M car good and decidedly better than the new M3 and M4.

Great, but how does it compare to the benchmark of the 1M? As good as the M2’s EPAS system is, it simply doesn’t come close to delivering the beautiful nuances and subtleties found in the 1M. Driving both cars back to back to back it was clear to all of us that the driver of the 1M was more engaged with the road. We’ve said it before and it still holds true. The 1M is analogue in its feel and interaction. As good as the M2’s steering is, it doesn’t quite come to life like the 1M’s. It’s the digital version of the 1M’s analogue."



If I never drove an 1M, the M2 would tick all my boxes. Especially since the (global) 1M factory options list was even shorter than the M2's. Yet [on driving engagement] the M2 "Simply doesn't come close to the 1M", acknowledges the 1M has become the long-term reference of it's segment.

One remarkable point that some of the reviews touch upon: from my point of view the so-called rawness of the 1M has never translated to scary situations that any successor needed to "improve" on.

[Bluenose-2er]

Originally Posted by eeghie

One remarkable point that some of the reviews touch upon: from my point of view the so-called rawness of the 1M has never translated to scary situations that any successor needed to "improve" on.

Maybe you just don't drive it hard enough

[7UP]

Originally Posted by Holbzz

I think i would rather sell my wife, than to part with the 1M.
No M2 envy at all

Never mess with your boss or you will get this

Lol

Congrats man! I just bought my 1M last weekend and I'm so glad I did it. Totally fall in love with her now haha. I also preordered a M2, guess I'll pass it to someone here.

[RaceCarDriver]

I picked up my new M2 over the weekend. i absolutely love it, still in the break in mileage comparison so hard to compare directly with my 1M.

1M has better steering feel and is "hair on fire" every time you drive the car.

M2 has a comfort mode, 1M does not. M2 in sport mode is equal to 1M.

My conclusion M2 = perfect daily driver 1M = weekend thrill ride.

Even more of a thrill is my 2001 S54 M coupe but I guess that is a different comparison.

If you want a car that's great at everything get an M2. If you want one of the best driving cars ever, 1M.

I wouldn't sell a 1M to get an M2 unless you need a daily driver. M2 has much more room in the back seat and has a comfort mode for your daily commute, it rev matches, etc.

You really can't go wrong with either.

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