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      04-21-2018, 05:43 AM   #177
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Speaking of ring times, on April 16th, Porsche took the 2019 GT3RS to the 'Ring to see how fast it could run a lap. The result was a 6:56.40, which is 24 seconds faster than the pre-refresh 991 GT3 RS. It also happens to be about 1 second faster than the 918 Spyder hypercar.
I want one.
That time was set with the new Cup 2 R tyres that is not available to the general public yet. If the 918 had those tyres back in 2013 it would have been faster.
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      04-21-2018, 06:08 AM   #178
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You fell in love. You got married. A more sexy woman that you have a chance with shows up in your life. Do you regret your decision to marry your wife and be miserable for the rest of your life? Do you remind yourself why you fell in love in the first place and enjoy your life with her? Or do you divorce your wife and run after the new woman?
You walk up to the new woman and greet her. She says "Hi !" followed by some strange noise. And you think by yourself: "Oh dear, I love how my wife speaks and screams when going through the curves. Even better: I love my wife the way she is." The End.
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      04-21-2018, 06:25 AM   #179
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You fell in love. You got married. A more sexy woman that you have a chance with shows up in your life. Do you regret your decision to marry your wife and be miserable for the rest of your life? Do you remind yourself why you fell in love in the first place and enjoy your life with her? Or do you divorce your wife and run after the new woman?
You walk up to the new woman and greet her. She says "Hi !" followed by some strange noise. And you think by yourself: "Oh dear, I love how my wife speaks and screams when going through the curves. Even better: I love my wife the way she is." The End.


And you also notice that she has a unibrow! Makes you think to yourself: "Oh my, I love my wife's perfectly-proportioned eye brows! The END, indeed!
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And you also notice that she has a unibrow! Makes you think to yourself: "Oh my, I love my wife's perfectly-proportioned eye brows! The END, indeed!
This thread is something !
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I just read this...wow
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      04-21-2018, 08:16 AM   #182
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You should actually be thankful to BMW because the current M2 design is superior to the M2 Competition in every way except for the M mirrors.It may perform slightly better but we still don't know how that extra weight over the front of the car will affect the handling of the car.On top of that it will have that brutal sounding exhaust note.Just enjoy your car.The car looks great and is a blast to drive.
As soon as those part numbers come out my mirrors are getting swapped. The stock mirrors aren't even that bad it's just that they are the same as my x1. Drives me nuts. The seats are cool too but not sure if they will be worth it over a Sportster CS.
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You walk up to the new woman and greet her. She says "Hi !" followed by some strange noise. And you think by yourself: "Oh dear, I love how my wife speaks and screams when going through the curves. Even better: I love my wife the way she is." The End.
Great. What happened to the 1M though?

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Cry me a river. Sure, the M2 Competition is upgraded, but its not the end of the world. Its not BMW's fault that you bought one at the wrong time. If you bought an iPhone 7, and a year later they released an iPhone 8, would you be mad at Apple? I wouldnt.
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You walk up to the new woman and greet her. She says "Hi !" followed by some strange noise. And you think by yourself: "Oh dear, I love how my wife speaks and screams when going through the curves. Even better: I love my wife the way she is." The End.
Great. What happened to the 1M though?
That's the one that got away
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I would not be upset. Primarily because I do not believe the story that the CS will be priced similarly to the base M2. The MSRP, may be that way, but don't doubt that the dealers will apply a major premium on it because of all the people who will have to have it.
Could just as easily call them suckers. But I won't. To each his own. I love my M2, and have no interest in the CS.
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I will probably trade in and get that car. Bad logic.
You could but you'd be throwing so much money away if you bought new, only to have another iteration come out soon after that. Just skip the Comp and wait for the Comp 2.0 or CS.
Frankly if cost isn't important and you want the wrong transmission (DCT) I'd just wait for the CS.
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You could but you'd be throwing so much money away if you bought new, only to have another iteration come out soon after that. Just skip the Comp and wait for the Comp 2.0 or CS.
Frankly if cost isn't important and you want the wrong transmission (DCT) I'd just wait for the CS.
If the cost isn't important, he'd just buy a M2C and enjoy while waiting for the CS or even the next gen with S58. Oh wait, maybe that's what he is doing already
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You walk up to the new woman and greet her. She says "Hi !" followed by some strange noise. And you think by yourself: "Oh dear, I love how my wife speaks and screams when going through the curves. Even better: I love my wife the way she is." The End.
Great. What happened to the 1M though?
That's the wild thing toy that has some stability issues ... not the one for ltr judging by the number of owners on some of them
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I will probably trade in and get that car. Bad logic.
You could but you'd be throwing so much money away if you bought new, only to have another iteration come out soon after that. Just skip the Comp and wait for the Comp 2.0 or CS.
Frankly if cost isn't important and you want the wrong transmission (DCT) I'd just wait for the CS.
It's a tax write off for me.
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Lots of idiots in here trying to tow the BMW corporate party line like they're employees or something.

I sympathize with the OP, I think it's pretty shitty and feels almost like a bit of planned obsolescence. Right now KBB says my M2 is worth 48-51k - Not sure I can actually get close to 50 now, but if I can I think I might sell the car and sit on the cash for awhile and wait until I can find a M2 comp near MSRP, or I might just pick up a P-car. I'm a bit soured by this.

Will this new model by limited in production or manufactured indefinitely?
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Cry me a river. Sure, the M2 Competition is upgraded, but its not the end of the world. Its not BMW's fault that you bought one at the wrong time. If you bought an iPhone 7, and a year later they released an iPhone 8, would you be mad at Apple? I wouldnt.
Great example, because a $1,000 iPhone has the same design life as a $50,000 vehicle.
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I am not sure of BMW's strategy here. The 2016 M2 is stock almost as quick as an M3 the new version will be quicker especially with a tune. Which will be incredibly easy to do. So really you are buying a 500hp M2. So why go up the food chain. The 2019 M2 will be a beast any way you look at it. It seems incredibly stupid of BMW to me. Yes they can sell more M2's but they can hurt the rest of the lineup....unless the M3/4 become AWD.
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Lots of idiots in here trying to tow the BMW corporate party line like they're employees or something.

I sympathize with the OP, I think it's pretty shitty and feels almost like a bit of planned obsolescence. Right now KBB says my M2 is worth 48-51k - Not sure I can actually get close to 50 now, but if I can I think I might sell the car and sit on the cash for awhile and wait until I can find a M2 comp near MSRP, or I might just pick up a P-car. I'm a bit soured by this.

Will this new model by limited in production or manufactured indefinitely?
There is no reason to insult people. We are all lucky to drive these cars.

What do you think how did M4 GTS owners feel when they got killed by Camaro and some of them payed over MSRP?

To answer your question M2c is not limited as far as we know.

If you want to have exclusivity you got to play with big boys.

Enjoy your M2!
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I am not sure of BMW's strategy here. The 2016 M2 is stock almost as quick as an M3 the new version will be quicker especially with a tune. Which will be incredibly easy to do. So really you are buying a 500hp M2. So why go up the food chain. The 2019 M2 will be a beast any way you look at it. It seems incredibly stupid of BMW to me. Yes they can sell more M2's but they can hurt the rest of the lineup....unless the M3/4 become AWD.
There is a big assumption here about an engine no one has put their hands on yet. I'd say let's wait before we assume this engine will be tunable to 500hp. BMW is many things, but no one has accused them of not knowing how to make money.
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There is a big assumption here about an engine no one has put their hands on yet. I'd say let's wait before we assume this engine will be tunable to 500hp. BMW is many things, but no one has accused them of not knowing how to make money.
Are you always so naive? Didn’t believe the S55 was coming. Well it’s here. Don’t believe this engine can be tuned to 500hp? Well it’s going to happen regardless if it needs extra bolt-ons. What’s next on your list?
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There is a big assumption here about an engine no one has put their hands on yet. I'd say let's wait before we assume this engine will be tunable to 500hp. BMW is many things, but no one has accused them of not knowing how to make money.
Are you always so naive? Didn't believe the S55 was coming. Well it's here. Don't believe this engine can be tuned to 500hp? Well it's going to happen regardless if it needs extra bolt-ons. What's next on your list?
Bolt-ons? Well, since you're an expert on tuning, how much HP do you think you can get out of the M2 N55 with bolt-ons? I was thinking flash tuning. And waiting for evidence is not called naive. Grow up.

And I never said I didn't believe an S55 will be in the next M2. What are you talking about?
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