[SickFinga]

Originally Posted by Lieutenant Biscuits

I've been a BMW fan since I was a kid. I wanted an E30 M3 since they came out.

Somehow I doubt this. If you were a fan of BMW, you'd know that this is a common strategy. Not only with BMW, but with every product. Lets look at BMW's history.


1986 - E30 M3 is released
1988 - BMW released M3 Evolution (unofficially Evo II)
1989 - E30 M3 with catalytic converted received a 20hp boost
1990 - E30 Sport Evo is released

1993 - E36 M3 is out
1995 - E36 M3 GT is out. Receives aluminum doors, staggered wheels, 9hp bump
1996 - E36 M3 gets a 3.2l engine with 35hp bump. Staggered wheels, aluminum doors are now standard on the basic model.

1989 - E34 M5 is out
1992 - E34 M5 gets a bigger engine, 25hp boost

It's only recently BMW stopped doing major updates to the drivetrain, but that's how they initially started. I did not even bring up LCI updates, nor I even talked about revisions to the non-M models. Things move much faster there.


If you always going to wait for the next new thing, you'll never own anything.

[Fear-Mongrel]

Originally Posted by mbrunner

This community can be shit sometimes so maybe its not just BMW? "Butthurt" "You need to reset your expectations or be forever disappointed." "Found this in your post history..."... Someone actually went looking for ammo to use against the OP because opinions can't change?

Then outside of this thread you have "Real M" this or that... Civic M2... It would also seem there is a lot of Shiny Object Syndrome going on with BMW owners and possibly a lot of very poor financial decisions if one is going to dump a 1-2 year old car on something new (but hey if you can, more power to you!) Although that is not unique to the BMW world, Porsche is probably worse.

I think it is a fair opinion from the OP. BMW has changed a lot as a car company in the last 5 years (or more), there are very few gems left in their line up (obviously my opinion) and they seem to have to make a model for every type of buyer so it really waters down the line up. The rate of change is also much higher than any other car maker which is good and bad at the same time. Like anything there is a risk of alienating buyers with all business decisions so it's not surprising to me but they will probably win more fans than they lose.

Best course of action is to enjoy the M2 you have, it is a great car after all. Ride out the warranty, then see what is out there. I have similar feelings about buying another BMW (well before they announced this car though...). Just look at it as a stepping stone to the Porsche you really want?

I'm really sick and tired of people like you making sense and sounding all non-Idiocracy. If all the 13 year olds in my neighborhood are saying "butthurt", why can't I? Some of us actually know the true history of automobiles. First Iaccoca gave us the K-Car, and now the Competition is the real M car, which makes the LCI the L car, for loosers. Because the opposite of winning is spelled loosing. How do I know this? The wolves who raised me also cave-schooled me. Now go get your shinebox and put it in the trunk of your Civic M2.

PS: To the OP, we're getting the LCI :-)

PPS: Mbrunner, that's a seriously good post.

[switlikbob]

I agree with the OP.
My next car will be a Porsche.

But in the mean time, I'll do what I normally do with my BMW's...

Make my pre-LCI, non-competition ///M2 faster than the new ///M5 by spending (wasting) $15-$25k on aftermarket turbos, fuel systems and tuning. LOL, I'm retarded sometimes.

[Fear-Mongrel]

Originally Posted by pimp4cheddar

Also - BMW fucked up by not making the M2 standard with the S55. The current M2 isn't much of an upgrade over the M235i...I mean look at the pricing for crying out loud.

This should have been the case years ago...it was a marketing blunder that they are trying to fix now.

If this is true - and sales numbers say you're wrong - it was a great mistake for us. If it had come with the S55, we wouldn't be buying it. This is one "mistake" that worked out for us.

Marketing blunders are Coke thinking they can change the recipe without fans being upset, or Chevy trying to export a car to Latin America called the "Nova"...which translates to "No Go". Those are marketing blunders. Choosing an engine which won Ward's Best Engines 3 years in a row, and tuning it up to 0-60 in 4.5, and then selling them faster than they can build them doesn't seem like much of a mistake. But that's just my opinion, and as another member here once reminded me, "opinions are dark mysterious places and nobody wants to know about yours."

[omasou]

You should continue reading forums and never purchase anything.

Something newer/better (subjective) will always come out soon after your purchase. The duration of soon is the guessing game for ALL products.

[Kid Eh]

Originally Posted by pimp4cheddar

Also - BMW fucked up by not making the M2 standard with the S55. The current M2 isn't much of an upgrade over the M235i...I mean look at the pricing for crying out loud.

This should have been the case years ago...it was a marketing blunder that they are trying to fix now.

Seriously? How so?

[eau_rouge]

That whole life cycle sh*t is the reason why I bought a completely stock M346 couple of years ago. Couldn't care less about changes to my M2. I will always love the E46 more anyway.

BTW, just as a tip: Get in your car, roll the windows down and put the car in Sport+ and have a blast. You will see, it's not that bad at all

[Arcanum-UK]

Originally Posted by mbrunner

Just look at it as a stepping stone to the Porsche you really want?

Because Porsche treat their customers any better when it comes to rapidly obsoleting the last model with a new one?

[Aapparition90]

They will gain more customers than they lose , Yes we on the forum are upset we are losing you but BMW does not care lol. Businesses are run using calculators not emotions.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by Arcanum-UK

Because Porsche treat their customers any better when it comes to rapidly obsoleting the last model with a new one?

I think this is just the new reality - companies aren't focused on putting a car out that will remain virtually unchanged between the LCI and new model cycles...thank the millennials!

But in all seriousness, so many people are so attention-deprived, ADD, forget what you told me 5 minutes ago, nose in the smartphone...well, that's why they're changing things so often (IMO) - just trying to keep people's attention, and stay relevant.

[Lieutenant Biscuits]

Originally Posted by SickFinga

Somehow I doubt this. If you were a fan of BMW, you'd know that this is a common strategy. Not only with BMW, but with every product. Lets look at BMW's history.

My apologies for me not being aware of such details. What a fool I am. I won't refer to myself as a BMW fan or fanboy again. I will just tell people I like, sorry liked, BMW cars a lot growing up

[Lieutenant Biscuits]

Originally Posted by afwares

Competition is the real M car, which makes the LCI the L car, for loosers.

That made me chuckle. Thanks man

[amancuso]

Who cares? There's always something bigger, faster, etc. out there. If you drove an old Civic and lust after every new car that comes out every 6-12 months, you'd save a lot of coin. As for me, I'm happy with my "lowly" N55 powered 2018 M2.

[Lieutenant Biscuits]

Originally Posted by amancuso

Who cares? There's always something bigger, faster, etc. out there. You should drive a Civic and lust after every new car that comes out every 6-12 months. As for me, I'm happy with my "lowly" N55 powered 2018 M2.

Everyone loves the Civic and from what I've read, it's a great car but it's ugly. It's like the designer has a box of items for making a car look sporty and just stuck them all on.

[amancuso]

Originally Posted by Lieutenant Biscuits

Everyone loves the Civic and from what I've read, it's a great car but it's ugly. It's like the designer has a box of items for making a car look sporty and just stuck them all on.

I agree with you there. I call it an alien space-bug.

[Ex-MINI]

Originally Posted by Lieutenant Biscuits

Everyone loves the Civic and from what I've read, it's a great car but it's ugly. It's like the designer has a box of items for making a car look sporty and just stuck them all on.

You mean the Civic Type R? Yes, friend of mine has one and it is a great car but ugly as sin. Need to put bleach in my eyes every time I look at it....and never forget to remind him of that

[KevM2]

Every time I get angry about not waiting for the M2C, I go for a drive in my LCI and I'm reminded how happy I am with that amazing N55/exhaust sound

[boostspoon]

Half to;dr

People upset should use this example as a far extreme which I hope you all don’t ever reach.

OP: This is not a first world problem. You need to manage your own expectations and emotions. Find what made your eyes light up when you first got the car and continue that every day. Then remove yourself from any M2 Comp media coverage and this forum so you’re not reminded.

Understand there has always been speculation of a CS or CSL version and nearly all M models now come out with some type of Competition package. You just didn’t do your homework and wait for it.

So toughen up and trade up if you so desire or sell the car altogether if you’re taking this situation as if it were some bad break up.

[HODLM]

Originally Posted by KevM2

Every time I get angry about not waiting for the M2C, I go for a drive in my LCI and I'm reminded how happy I am with that amazing N55/exhaust sound

Or I just look at the redesigned front end and cringe a little.

[Lieutenant Biscuits]

Originally Posted by boostspoon

So toughen up and trade up if you so desire or sell the car altogether if you’re taking this situation as if it were some bad break up.

I've taken it like a very bad break up
But I will keep my car because I love it.

[OG///M]

Originally Posted by Lieutenant Biscuits

I've taken it like a very bad break up
But I will keep my car because I love it.

Don't blame you if this will be your last Bimmer.
It'll probably be my last new one for a while since I don't appreciate the new design direction they are taking lately. (There will be a old E46 in my future)

But it seems like the easiest solution to your problem is to save up and not buy anything unless you're 95-99% satisfied with the product.

That way even if the next best thing arrives, it can only fill 1-5% of the deficiencies and you won't feel bad about it.

Don't buy something with a compromise?

[z3lai]

the most disappointing thing for me is the LCI version just after 1 model year
no more bmw in the near future as well....