02-26-2018, 03:55 AM | #45 |
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In general this debate of N55 vs S55 or LCI vs Competition comes down to your personal preference, there is no bad choice here. just take what you feel is better for you and go with it. I think the 400 HP RWD car is enough for me for now to learn and develop as a driver. Even my 230 HP GTI is a lot of fun and enough for the road.
I had a kind of a breakthrough last year. I was one of those that when bought something already thought about the next thing after - this robbed me of the enjoyment about the things I had. When I got my GTI after a year I already started thinking about what's next. Putting deposits for the next GT4 and M2 Competiton. Then I thought to myself - take a step back, develop your skills and enjoy what you already have, otherwise this craving is going to kill all your fun. My GF made me aware of this which I thank her for a lot as I'm much happier now enjoying my GTI wherever I can. Not looking with envy but with appreciation to other cars on the road I'm ordering N55 M2 LCI this or the next week with manual and I'll keep it for a long time, I'll mod the car to my liking and make it my treasured love like John Wick with his '69 Mustang |
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There is no direct link, just our presumptions. Maybe far-fetched maybe not who knows
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02-26-2018, 05:19 AM | #47 | |
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Highly likely thy are installing that particulate filter also in the m2. The n55 probably has similar emissions as the s55 but not worth the effort to install the filter for just one car model. |
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02-26-2018, 02:54 PM | #48 | |
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That's why N55 can be sold until Sep 2018 without additional tax, later on it wouldn't comply to the new WLTP testing procedure commencing from Sep 2018 without a particle filter which is pointless to R&D at this point thus faster switch to S55 where it's feasible (more cars using it). About the tax/fines: Quote:
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There are shops around that specialise in cutting and programming them out even. |
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02-26-2018, 05:17 PM | #53 |
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So the S55 and N55 are pretty much the same CO2 emissions, and likely the same particulate emissions, but need a DPF to pass the new tests and they are willing to add one for the S55 but not for the N55?
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02-26-2018, 06:24 PM | #54 |
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I just closed the deal on my M2 and am pretty psyched right now!! I will be picking it up two weeks from today at the performance center.
Sort of on the subject, one thing I wanted to mention is something noticed at the dealership. The BMW genius was showing me around an M2 they had there. The M2 exhaust was not as nice sounding as the M3 exhaust that he showed me. The M2 exhaust sounded slightly more aggressive than I remember my M235i stock exhaust. It was nice, but didn't blow me away. He then showed me an M3 and it was much more deeper and aggressive sounding, and sounded pretty good IMO. Both times, he put the cars in sport-mode. When we listened to the M2 I was in the driver's seat, and the M3 he was. I'm not sure if that had any effect on how I heard it. I just thought that was interesting, since I've read that the M2 exhaust sounded better than the F80/82. The M2 didn't have the PCI done on it and still had all the white plastic stuff on it . I wonder if it's because the M2 wasn't broke in, because I remember it not being that loud when I test drove an it almost a year ago. |
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02-26-2018, 07:28 PM | #56 | |
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In both cases you might have been hearing the ASD and not much of the exhaust. |
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02-26-2018, 08:11 PM | #57 |
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You may be right, I don't know. We just revved the cars a little and didn't drive them. It was done with the windows down. The M3 did sound better IMO either way. I haven't driven a BMW since my M235i almost a year ago. One thing I notice is the ASD was a lot more pronounced on my Focus RS than it was on the bimmers. I actually don't mind ASD.
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03-04-2018, 06:12 AM | #59 | |
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The M3 did have black tips (non carbon fiber). I don't know much about the MPE on those models so maybe it was. |
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I am number one at my dealer and Will get a competition when I can, but would not trade anything for ED with a ‘civic’ M2 and over a year of enjoying it. FWIW, for people not tracking it, not sure the extra ponies will be that much more enjoyable as a DD. JMO. |
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I love my M2 and I don’t think that the extra horse power is useful unless you expect to do a lot of track days. My M2 is already a beast on the streets.
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03-06-2018, 02:01 PM | #64 | |
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Here's the thing - it doesn't make sense to engineer a new solution for an engine that is on its way out. The M2 is the last car running the N55. The M4/M4 convertible are still going for a few more years, and the S55 will be around for that duration. It makes more sense to do something that the car was already potentially engineered for the idea of - dropping in the S55 - and letting the N55 go. It makes more sense to go with the longer-term solution with the S55, because there is going to be less engineering involved for the particulate filter, especially if the S55 was already going to make its way into the M2 (via a CS model, etc), regardless. If they drop the N55 completely, then they only have to engineer one particulate filter (for the S55), vs 2 (N55 and S55). Of course, all of this is purely speculation at this point - as is virtually anything else you'll hear on the forums until Beijing - but it makes perfect sense. Personally, I have an order in with a dealer for a standard M2 right now, because I prefer the sound of the N55, like many, and because I'm afraid that the torque curve on the S55 is going to imbalance the car. I'm hoping that I'll be able to get one with final quarter allocations. If I can't, no big deal. I don't want to wait an extra few months, but I definitely wouldn't mind getting the M2 Competition at all - and might even prefer it - but I do like the existing car an awful lot, and I'm afraid of the unknowns with the Competition. The front end (I'm concerned about the huge grills looking silly), the overall balance of the car, suspension stiffness vs the base M2, etc - they're all up in the air right now, and while I know they'll nail it and make it an awesome car, that doesn't mean it will be as passable of a daily driver. I certainly wouldn't throw it out of bed for eating cookies, though. |
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The rhetoric about this topic has changed ALOT over the last few months I see. It went from planned obsolescence to personal preference as soon as the audio from the CS came out
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