[Gryzor]

Originally Posted by swagon

The press release, as far as I remember, did not mention Adaptive suspension. That's the source. It is not a speculation.

So not mentioning something is the same as actually saying "it does not have something"? Hmm...

Like I said, happy to be proven wrong either way, but with that kind of logic it's like me going out for a meal, but because I never told you, it didn't happen.

[WAY]

Originally Posted by Gryzor

So not mentioning something is the same as actually saying "it does not have something"? Hmm...

Like I said, happy to be proven wrong either way, but with that kind of logic it's like me going out for a meal, but because I never told you, it didn't happen.

I think what you are saying is reasonably, but press releases is used as kind of a "show off" document and not to outline a feature like this in your press release would be completely out of character. Having said that, either someone made a mistake in the press release, or the product launch guide. I would think it's more likely to be the latter as its an internal document and hence not be scrutinised as heavily.

[swagon]

Originally Posted by WAY

I think what you are saying is reasonably, but press releases is used as kind of a "show off" document and not to outline a feature like this in your press release would be completely out of character. Having said that, either someone made a mistake in the press release, or the product launch guide. I would think it's more likely to be the latter as its an internal document and hence not be scrutinised as heavily.

I think so, too. Press releases cannot contain mistakes as they are used by journalists who then spread the information all over the world. Had there been any mistakes, BMW would have corrected it immediately.

[Haslamhazza]

M specific sport suspension , unique to M2. That's what it says in UK. I would be very surprised if it's any different in USA

[Spook410]

Lot of extrapolation and overthinking going on here. It's documented in the product literature. Don't agree that press releases are sacrosanct or always complete. Finally, I didn't survey, but I believe all BMW cars, from the 228 through the 7 series have Adaptive Suspension either standard or as an option. All of them. The M2 will not be the lone stand out.

However, while it may be standard in the UK like color choice, I predict it will be a $1000 option in the US just like it is on the M3.


edit: And now that we're seeing full pricing guides that have codes for every little feature all we have to do is look up Adaptive Suspension and.. ummm.. wait.. damn. I'm going to be so pissed if you guys are right.

[eau_rouge]

Originally Posted by Gryzor

So somebody else said in the other thread, but again, based on what verifiable source? At the end of the day I concede that what I was given may not end up being correct, but in the absence of anything else I'll take the official promotional material provided by an M Sales Specialist over what is speculated on a forum.

You can't find it in the German pricelist so far. So I guess my comment was valid.

[hyperzulu]

Originally Posted by swagon

I think so, too. Press releases cannot contain mistakes as they are used by journalists who then spread the information all over the world. Had there been any mistakes, BMW would have corrected it immediately.

haha yeah right. Go talk to all the 2 series owners who got partial refunds for the HK stereo upgrade not being what was advertised, or the automatic trunk release controlled by waving your foot under the rear bumper. Granted, this is a bit more prominent, but mistakes happen.

[PackPride85]

Originally Posted by hyperzulu

haha yeah right. Go talk to all the 2 series owners who got partial refunds for the HK stereo upgrade not being what was advertised, or the automatic trunk release controlled by waving your foot under the rear bumper. Granted, this is a bit more prominent, but mistakes happen.

Not to mention the actual car weight they got backwards between the 6spd and DCT.

[Spook410]

Thing is.. I'm not seeing an Adaptive Suspension in any of the ordering guides. This will be disappointing, but I'm thinking we're not going to have it available.

[sergiomgc]

Originally Posted by Spook410

Thing is.. I'm not seeing an Adaptive Suspension in any of the ordering guides. This will be disappointing, but I'm thinking we're not going to have it available.

No adaptive suspensions...

[sergiomgc]

...and some more tech data...

[Viffermike]

Originally Posted by Spook410

Lot of extrapolation and overthinking going on here. It's documented in the product literature. Don't agree that press releases are sacrosanct or always complete. Finally, I didn't survey, but I believe all BMW cars, from the 228 through the 7 series have Adaptive Suspension either standard or as an option. All of them. The M2 will not be the lone stand out.

However, while it may be standard in the UK like color choice, I predict it will be a $1000 option in the US just like it is on the M3.

edit: And now that we're seeing full pricing guides that have codes for every little feature all we have to do is look up Adaptive Suspension and.. ummm.. wait.. damn. I'm going to be so pissed if you guys are right.

I used to be a journalist. You would not believe the misinformation that is often contained in press releases.

The important thing to remember is that the press release didn't mention it. That doesn't mean it won't have it. It means they decided not to address it at the time. Omission on a press release does not equal omission on the car.

Originally Posted by WAY

I think what you are saying is reasonably, but press releases is used as kind of a "show off" document and not to outline a feature like this in your press release would be completely out of character. Having said that, either someone made a mistake in the press release, or the product launch guide. I would think it's more likely to be the latter as its an internal document and hence not be scrutinised as heavily.

Oh HELL no it wouldn't be out of character. That's part of what a press release does: address a topic using only the information the releasing entity wants to talk about. I would say that neither is wrong. The question is what type of suspension North American M2s will have.

[WAY]

Vigfermike, good to see your enthusiasm, but I'm afraid this topic is closed. There will be no adaptive dampers for M2. Sorry man.

[hyperzulu]

I don't believe a press release constitutes any finality one way or the other, but the M Performance coil overs available for the M2 vs the M4 seem to indicate that the M2 is a passive system. I think if the M2 had EDC, they would have made a suspension system that hooks into that system like they did with the M4. Offering a coil over system that made you strip off a standard feature would be an odd move.

[sth519]

Keep in mind that the M2 can already be ordered in Europe and there's no mention of adaptive suspension in the price lists or the ordering systems.

[metrickid]

Originally Posted by sth519

Keep in mind that the M2 can already be ordered in Europe and there's no mention of adaptive suspension in the price lists or the ordering systems.

Exactly, I and a lot of others have official orders in that are paid for and in the system and all the configurators around Europe are up. So no, the M2 won't have adaptive suspension and it isn't just some "forum talk".

[hyperzulu]

Originally Posted by Rossifumi

Exactly, I and a lot of others have official orders in that are paid for and in the system and all the configurators around Europe are up. So no, the M2 won't have adaptive suspension and it isn't just some "forum talk".

Some people were holding out hope that the US would get different options. Not likely, but not impossible.

[metrickid]

Originally Posted by hyperzulu

Some people were holding out hope that the US would get different options. Not likely, but not impossible.

The likelihood of the US getting adaptive suspension and the ROW not getting is really grasping at straws!

I would say that it is more likely that the US gets the S65 in the car than adaptive suspension.

[sth519]

Also, the only mention of adaptive suspension so far was in the UK launch guide, but the UK does not get adaptive suspension.

Not to kill any hopes (I'd prefer adaptive suspension myself), but I think it's much more likely that it was just an error in that one document.

[Viffermike]

Originally Posted by WAY

Vigfermike, good to see your enthusiasm, but I'm afraid this topic is closed. There will be no adaptive dampers for M2. Sorry man.

Hey, dude -- I'm not sorry. Personally, I'd rather have a conventional suspension on an M2!

My "enthusiasm" was directed at those in the thread stereotyping the purpose of a press release. I've seen many thousands and written hundreds, both professionally. You learn how to read them, what to trust in them, what is BS in them, how to read between what they do and don't state. It's damn near an art form.

[etloeb]

Originally Posted by Viffermike

Hey, dude -- I'm not sorry. Personally, I'd rather have a conventional suspension on an M2!

My "enthusiasm" was directed at those in the thread stereotyping the purpose of a press release. I've seen many thousands and written hundreds, both professionally. You learn how to read them, what to trust in them, what is BS in them, how to read between what they do and don't state. It's damn near an art form.

So does the M2 in NA definitely not have an adaptive suspension or the option to get it?

[BruceM]

What does the comfort/sport/sport plus button, which the M2 does have by all accounts, do to the suspension when used? If it affects the suspension, by what mechanism does it do so? What other parameters does it adjust?