[dammitcubs]

Originally Posted by OrangeCrush

Where do you go for this info?

http://www.bmwvin.com

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by dammitcubs

If you guys look carefully at this youtube video - you see Carlos Lago go inside this M3 that was at the Detroit auto show. You will see the rear seats are folded Down!

Spectacular find.

Could be a early-production difference in the show car. Lets hope not.

[hans007]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

Spectacular find.

Could be a early-production difference in the show car. Lets hope not.

Well the show cars are euro spec though.

I'd guess it has some sort of fold down seat.


Not having fold down seats is better for chassis rigidity though but pretty inconvenient.

I know the second gen Lexus IS had no option at all to fold down rear seats and the w204 Mercedes it was only an option which I've heard from friends is really annoying when they didn't know when they bought their cars just expecting it to be standard

[zenmaster]

Originally Posted by hans007

Well the show cars are euro spec though.

how is it euro spec with speedometer in MPH?

[hans007]

Originally Posted by zenmaster

how is it euro spec with speedometer in MPH?

no idea. i just saw that other thread in the photos sub, where the guy took pics of it being shipped out and it said it was not american spec

i mean they have miles in the UK right?

[///Jason]

Originally Posted by hans007

no idea. i just saw that other thread in the photos sub, where the guy took pics of it being shipped out and it said it was not american spec

i mean they have miles in the UK right?

Yes correct, MPH, but our steering wheels are on the right as we drive on the 'right' side of the road

On that video the steering wheel is on the left I see

[dammitcubs]

Originally Posted by ///Jason

Yes correct, MPH, but our steering wheels are on the right as we drive on the 'right' side of the road

On that video the steering wheel is on the left I see

I'm confused - the steering wheel was on the left side and it showed MPH.

From visual - there is nothing that says Euro Spec. It would have to be related some inside information that was not shown in the video.

[///Jason]

Originally Posted by dammitcubs

I'm confused - the steering wheel was on the left side and it showed MPH.

From visual - there is nothing that says Euro Spec. It would have to be related some inside information that was not shown in the video.

I would guess it is 'American Spec' as its LHD with MPH.

All of Europe is LHD with KMPH (As far as I'm aware & I've been to a fair amount of it)

The UK is the exception as its RHD with MPH.

However I don't believe BMW themselves are making different spec M2's for different markets. The way I see it is the factory can make a M2 with a variety of options from LHD/RHD, mph/kmph dials to sunroofs, rear view cameras e.c.t Its then up to the individual markets (BMW UK, BMW USA e.t.c) to decided on how they market those options. For example In America I believe you simply have an 'executive package'? Here we have more choice in terms of speccing individual options. Ultimately though the cars are the same base / options.

Going full circle back to the Detroit motor show I would expect an American spec car (LHD, MPH) for a big American car show.

[zenmaster]

Originally Posted by hans007

no idea. i just saw that other thread in the photos sub, where the guy took pics of it being shipped out and it said it was not american spec

i mean they have miles in the UK right?

Why would they make a left hand drive w/ MPH that was euro spec?

[blackholescion]

Originally Posted by zenmaster

Why would they make a left hand drive w/ MPH that was euro spec?

Northern Ireland uses imperial (mph) iirc.

[zenmaster]

Originally Posted by blackholescion

Northern Ireland uses imperial (mph) iirc.

That does sort of address that particular question, but begs the question of why they'd show the features of a Northern Ireland market, euro-spec car in the states when they've already built a bunch of US-bound cars before that show?

[blackholescion]

Yeah, it definitely doesn't make any sense as to why they'd do that.

[2M]

Originally Posted by zenmaster

That does sort of address that particular question, but begs the question of why they'd show the features of a Northern Ireland market, euro-spec car in the states when they've already built a bunch of US-bound cars before that show?

Its not a Euro Spec car, it is US spec, Has orange bumper reflectors. Case closed.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

The M2 at the NY auto show definitely has fold down rear seats.

[ric124]

According to the bmwusa.com feature list there is no split rear folding seats.

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...ModelCode=162R

[gmzanatta]

60/40 split in NA markets.

40/20/40 as option on Euro spec.

That's what we've been seeing with last few cars.

[weyland]

So do you mean 60/40 split is standard in Euro/UK/all cars & 40/20/40 is a UK/Euro option? As that's how my dealer sold it.

[gmzanatta]

Originally Posted by weyland

So do you mean 60/40 split is standard in Euro/UK/all cars & 40/20/40 is a UK/Euro option? As that's how my dealer sold it.

Yes, seems that way.

[///Jason]

Originally Posted by weyland

So do you mean 60/40 split is standard in Euro/UK/all cars & 40/20/40 is a UK/Euro option? As that's how my dealer sold it.

This is correct - the rear seats also get a armrest with the 40:20:40 configuration.

40:60 is standard on all BMW Coupès.

However on something like a 3 series you have to add fold down rear seats as a option (in the UK at least) if you require access to the cabin from the boot. You'd think by 2016 that would be standard on a premium / executive saloon.

[ric124]

I would love if it comes with it but I'm not keeping my hopes up. I went on bmwusa.com and clicked on See all standard features and it only mentions Folding rear-seat headrests then I check for the M4 and it says Split fold-down through-load rear seats

[pruettfan]

The show cars I have seen in person (two) plus the one's I saw photos in Monterey all appeared to be Euro spec (didn't have Nav as an example) so while I hope the seats will be folding I am not sure that the photos are representative of what we will get in the U.S. It makes sense that they would make all of the cars with fold down rather than having another variable in production but we have seen BMW do stranger things and they don't list it as a feature which seems odd.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by ric124

According to the bmwusa.com feature list there is no split rear folding seats.

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...ModelCode=162R

I believe this is an oversight. The M2 at the NY auto show confirmed the US spec car has fold-down rear seat backs.