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Again, you think CF is expensive.. it is not. It just takes a tad bit of pre-engineering. And the MARKETING of a cf bits will override errant bean counters.
No cf means BMW M short changed us, no amount of marketing will bring that back. |
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I am eagerly awaiting the M2 as many of you. I just got my 228 to save some money before going for the M2. I think its gonna be a great piece of engineering if the current 2 series is any kind of indication.
My thought on the pricing is somewhere along the lines of the AMG CLA45. I think the M2 will be competing here and within its price range. I am therefore hopeful to see a base price at or just below 50k with further options pushing it just above 60k. Time will tell. |
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In order to do this, the logical path is to leverage CFRP (which should be readily available thanks to the new plant)... we know they're not going to sacrifice tech and creature comforts, as they're a must to sell cars to most buyers (and even to many enthusiasts), so lightweight parts are the answer.
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I still have a feeling that the M2 will weigh 3,350lbs or so once it hits the US, UGH!
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What did you guys downgrade from? I am considering the same thing. When I crunched the numbers on my current lease (buyout - trade value in 3 years) it will cost ~$15K and if I lease a bare bones 228i for 3 years it will be about the same may $1k less. I think I am just going to keep my 335 in case the M2 is a dud or is out of price reach, doubt either will be true.
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I think 3350 would actually be a solid result...I'm just hoping it's under 3400 (which was about the weight of the e46 M3).
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I actually leased a 2012 Buick Regal Turbo. It was/is a good car for what it is. I wanted something smaller and always wanted a BMW and the m235 was it. Crunching numbers and knowing id probably want to go to the m2 or maybe m3 down the road, I opted for the 228i M Sport, with lighting, manual seats, moonroof and leather seats. $200-$300 bucks in savings per month over the m235 over 3 years was reason enough for me to just save the difference and put it towards a car that I know I really really want, which is the m2. To some people 200 or 300 is not a lot, but its still quite a bit of money IMO. This time however, I am doing it properly with ED and all. It will be hard going to another brand after having driven and owned the first BMW.
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I would set the price around $55k well-equipped to give some room between the 235i and M2, but not so high that it encroaches on M4. I would pay low $60's if it had a real motorsports engine and was close to M4 in straight line performance.
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You are right. I keep seeing 55k being thrown out there. That is way too much. Back when I bought my 1M, I built a 135is on bmw.com and with a couple performance option it was only a couple thousand cheaper than a 1M...msrp to msrp. I dont even know how the M2 could be in the 50's with no options. I guess if they make navigation standard and carbon fiber roof it could skirt around 50k. But 55k? It better have the S55 in it.
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