[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by Edward

...the m3/4 seats are about as bad as they get.

LOL, sure. The M4 seats are far more supportive than the base M2 seats. Hold you much better at the track, driven cars back to back at M event. Done multiple day roads trips in F80 and are very comfortable. To top it of they look miles better than the base M2 seats. The base seats barely belong in a regular 2series, look cheap.

[chris719]

Originally Posted by M3_WC

LOL, sure. The M4 seats are far more supportive than the base M2 seats. Hold you much better at the track, driven cars back to back at M event. Done multiple day roads trips in F80 and are very comfortable. To top it of they look miles better than the base M2 seats. The base seats barely belong in a regular 2series, look cheap.

The regular 235/M2 seats are not bad at all, but agree with you the M3/M4 seats hold you better. Drove them back to back also in SC.

[Edward]

Originally Posted by M3_WC

LOL, sure. The M4 seats are far more supportive than the base M2 seats. Hold you much better at the track, driven cars back to back at M event. Done multiple day roads trips in F80 and are very comfortable. To top it of they look miles better than the base M2 seats. The base seats barely belong in a regular 2series, look cheap.

You didn't comprehend the part regarding seats in my post. I am saying they are much better than the sad seats in the gen 1. But as far as seats that come with an integrated headrest (one piece), almost every seat out there is better than the m3/m4 seat. Porsche's bucket seat, BMW performance (recaro) mercedes' c63s seat, the Audi rs5 seat and the list goes on. Anyway...

[infinitekidM2C]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

Certainly not, why should I do that?
I love my LBB N55 M2, don't get me wrong. The looks(wheels, stance, colour, sound)

I just want a more powerful , more racy, more //M and more reliable engine.

Cheers
Robin

you make me sick!

[akkando]

Originally Posted by Edward

, bumper is updated (easy to hate it if you own gen 1),

So much "better" Ind is selling a grille to make it look like the old bumper!

[F87_LCI]

Originally Posted by akkando

So much "better" Ind is selling a piece to make it look like the old bumper!

It's not a piece. It's the same grill that's been painted in the middle. But yes, it looks much better and less "moustache-ish" IMO.

[M3_WC]

[bobert]

Good lord, that simple change to add paint in the center strip makes a massive difference!

Now, if I were buying an M2C I could actually consider colors other than black. But I'd still get black.

[Jcon157]

Originally Posted by akkando

So much "better" Ind is selling a grille to make it look like the old bumper!

Still think the grille appears a bit oversized but this is a HUGE improvement over stock form! For any color other than BSM I'd consider this a mandatory mod before I even drove off the showroom floor

Now if iND can only make that huge muffler disappear

[Edward]

Originally Posted by akkando

So much "better" Ind is selling a grille to make it look like the old bumper!

Didn't even notice cuz the rest of the bumper was so much better. Also, good on IND to create a solution for people who simply prefer a traditional kidney grill. I don't see ind making a full gen 1 bumper to retrofit to the gen 2 lol

[BMWWorld]

The first gen M2 had a different engine, so I think that alone would make it more rare and desirable in the near future. So imo I would prefer keeping the old one rather than taking the new one.
Please correct me if I'm wrong by assuming the future collectibility of the first gen m2.

[Pyrat 2]

Originally Posted by tke743

I've seen many occasions where the Quickfit harnesses are not permitted by tech inspect for these cars. The F-Series cars and seats (including the M2) are not certified for their use.

Curious. What tracks and or clubs have rejected the quickfits on the M2? I've had mine at several tracks and with 5 different event hosts and never been questioned. 3 different BMWCCA event hosts as well as Laps Inc and MVP. Road America, Mid-Ohio, Road Atlanta, Autobahn, and Gingerman all with the quickfit and M2 combo. Add Barber, Putnam, and Grattan on my 135 which admittedly they were fitted to.

[chris719]

Originally Posted by BMWWorld

The first gen M2 had a different engine, so I think that alone would make it more rare and desirable in the near future. So imo I would prefer keeping the old one rather than taking the new one.
Please correct me if I'm wrong by assuming the future collectibility of the first gen m2.

Lol, these are not collectible cars. Many BMWs have been produced in lower volumes and are not collectible. Used M2s are going to be selling in the upper 30s soon enough.

[BMWWorld]

Originally Posted by chris719

Lol, these are not collectible cars. Many BMWs have been produced in lower volumes and are not collectible. Used M2s are going to be selling in the upper 30s soon enough.

I didn't say they where collectibles but I get your point, it's not like a M1 or even less a 507. But if you think about it in te future lower production numbers equals to more desirable cars. Recent examples are the 1M, e92 due to their s65 engine (not a collectible, but really desirable), also the e90 M3 CRT, etc.

Let me point the fact again that low production numbers equals to more desirable models, ultimately making them collectibles down the road.

[Alfonso235i]

Originally Posted by chris719

Lol, these are not collectible cars. Many BMWs have been produced in lower volumes and are not collectible. Used M2s are going to be selling in the upper 30s soon enough.

Exactly! Idk why people still act like there is such low numbers of these cars. I do believe that in a year when there plenty of M2c most of the og M2 are going to plummet in value. Maybe 25 years from now they'll go back up but the next 10 years they'll depreciate greatly like most BMWs.
I have driven the m2 quite a bit and I love it (my good friend has one) but from the first time I took it out I felt it needed more power so I'm super excited about the s55 going in it. I couldn't care less about the wheels (I actually like them) the grill I don't really like much but it is in no way a deal breaker. I'm glad the seats have changed. Does the s55 sound like shit, meh not great, not that bad either. Idk why everyone must fight about which is best. One is clearly going to be faster than the other (especially tuned) and people should just get over it. Otherwise they're still both an M2. Oh and those that argue about how they ruined it because of 55kg are hilarious!!!!!!

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by BMWWorld

I didn't say they where collectibles but I get your point, it's not like a M1 or even less a 507. But if you think about it in te future lower production numbers equals to more desirable cars. Recent examples are the 1M, e92 due to their s65 engine (not a collectible, but really desirable), also the e90 M3 CRT, etc.

Let me point the fact again that low production numbers equals to more desirable models, ultimately making them collectibles down the road.

10-15+ years from now it will be like the Z3M Coupe, which moved from S52 to the S54. The later revised M Coupe with the S54 carries a premium over the S52 powered cars. Even though some would argue the S52 sounds better(I'll admit I'm a S54 fanboy and I beg to differ). In case of the M2, the engine swap to an S designated will be a factor into future values. The S55 is a significant upgrade in terms of hardware. They built something like 30,000 N55 M2's and will probably build similar numbered M2C's. M2 and M2C will depreciate like all other M cars.

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by M3_WC

Carbon intake looks great with the carbon strutbrace.

[Bt12]

I agree with OP. Not enough to wap it out

[Damage Inc]

Originally Posted by Jcon157

A fine choice . I held off on my purchase until I saw everything I wanted to see about the M2C and then immediately contacted my CA to locate an '18 LCI for me! Personally I found there were too many negatives to compensate for the extra premium. I'm not a fan of the grilles, the exhaust sound, the muffler hanging down in all its glory, the oil cooler location, the extra weight over the nose, and the 788M's. I'm indifferent on the front PDC or the front seats. I really just want the damn mirrors

Most importantly, a manual M2C with Exec pack would have cost me $9,530 more out the door (that's assuming I got M2C for MSRP). This made my decision EXTREMELY easy.

If I planned on making this a dedicated track car then perhaps my outlook would be different due to the S55 tuning potential. Since I'm not, I can say wholeheartedly I have zero regrets and I'm sure you won't either

What bumper is on that black M2? That looks amazing.

[Jcon157]

Originally Posted by Damage Inc

What bumper is on that black M2? That looks amazing.

Thanks! It's the Vorsteiner VRS Carbon Front Splitter.

There's a few more pictures at different angles shown in my garage too.

[BMWWorld]

Originally Posted by hellrotm

10-15+ years from now it will be like the Z3M Coupe, which moved from S52 to the S54. The later revised M Coupe with the S54 carries a premium over the S52 powered cars. Even though some would argue the S52 sounds better(I'll admit I'm a S54 fanboy and I beg to differ). In case of the M2, the engine swap to an S designated will be a factor into future values. The S55 is a significant upgrade in terms of hardware. They built something like 30,000 N55 M2's and will probably build similar numbered M2C's. M2 and M2C will depreciate like all other M cars.

You got a valid point there.

[10"]

Originally Posted by hellrotm

10-15+ years from now it will be like the Z3M Coupe, which moved from S52 to the S54. The later revised M Coupe with the S54 carries a premium over the S52 powered cars. Even though some would argue the S52 sounds better(I'll admit I'm a S54 fanboy and I beg to differ). In case of the M2, the engine swap to an S designated will be a factor into future values. The S55 is a significant upgrade in terms of hardware. They built something like 30,000 N55 M2's and will probably build similar numbered M2C's. M2 and M2C will depreciate like all other M cars.

The Z3M was a fairly low production car with either engine option. The M2 is being made in significantly higher numbers...